Well that highly depends on how they implement it: If there were only two ranges (0-50% short range, 50-100% long range) you wouldnt need to "hug" the enemy tank to gain maximal penetration.
Brings a lot of interesting balance possibilities and unit-role redesigns...Panthers having to kite t34/76s to retain their armour advantage (but having to get close and flank SU85s)...pz4s being an equal match to t34/76s at short range...stugs being so much greater at long range compared to pz4s...ISU152s and IS2s being efficient at longer ranges. A lot of potentially great stuff.
If range-dependant tank combat played that much of a role some kind graphical indicator wether your tank is engaging at long or short range would be amazing though. Green crosshair cursor when attacking at short range, red one when attacking a unit that is far away for example.
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18 Apr 2014, 01:39 AM
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18 Apr 2014, 03:54 AM
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PaK 40 awesome? I agree that pak43 is awesome, but 40? WTF? every game I watch (replay) or from my ally's perspective in a team game or something, it always ENDS on russian hands, always.
Its like you create a pak40 to give it to the enemy, now that is a joke, kill 2 guys from the crew, and voilá, free pak.
If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.
18 Apr 2014, 04:03 AM
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If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.
Not really, the Pak 40 is piss easy to decrew, you only need to kill 3/4 of the crew instead of the entire thing. It's also slow and there's no merge so it likely won't be reinforced unless he gets a Half-Track.
The only way to guarantee safety is to keep it back behind your lines, where it'll likely not get attacked, but would also be too far from the action to attack anyway. The main reason people get a Pak 40 is because they can't afford enough Tanks.
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18 Apr 2014, 04:16 AM
#204
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any predictions on WHEN the patch will be released?
18 Apr 2014, 04:21 AM
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Not really, the Pak 40 is piss easy to decrew, you only need to kill 3/4 of the crew instead of the entire thing. It's also slow and there's no merge so it likely won't be reinforced unless he gets a Half-Track.
The only way to guarantee safety is to keep it back behind your lines, where it'll likely not get attacked, but would also be too far from the action to attack anyway. The main reason people get a Pak 40 is because they can't afford enough Tanks.
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18 Apr 2014, 04:44 AM
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any predictions on WHEN the patch will be released?
No official word on ETA really aside from hints here and there. "We'll probably dive more into this sometime next week" and "We are hoping to address this imbalance this month" is as concrete as it gets from the Reddit Tuesday, so my guess would be next week?
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18 Apr 2014, 10:06 AM
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If your paks are getting decrewed and stolen every game then I would tend to think that your using them wrong.
Another dude that thinks I use paks40 lmao, seriously, learn to read my previous posts.
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18 Apr 2014, 10:57 AM
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Another dude that thinks I use paks40 lmao, seriously, learn to read my previous posts.
You should use them, they're the best AT-gun in the game. If you leave them supported then they won't be decrewed.
18 Apr 2014, 11:04 AM
#209
Posts: 471
You should use them, they're the best AT-gun in the game. If you leave them supported then they won't be decrewed.
This. Pak40 shoots 30% faster than Zis while having the same penetration.
For pure AT, Pak 40 is absolutely awesome.
18 Apr 2014, 11:17 AM
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This. Pak40 shoots 30% faster than Zis while having the same penetration.
For pure AT, Pak 40 is absolutely awesome.
WHY.
Soviet armor is already weaker and German AT is way superior. And now the german PAK shoots faster than the ZiS gun which is the only non - doctrinal reliable AT along with the SU85.
Thats stupid imo.
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18 Apr 2014, 11:28 AM
#211
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^^ +1
Why is Soviet AT so crap and German AT so good?
Why is Soviet AT so crap and German AT so good?
18 Apr 2014, 11:31 AM
#212
Posts: 618
The next patch will buff Soviet AT, can we stop complaining about it now?
18 Apr 2014, 11:34 AM
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WHY.
Soviet armor is already weaker and German AT is way superior. And now the german PAK shoots faster than the ZiS gun which is the only non - doctrinal reliable AT along with the SU85.
Thats stupid imo.
The PaK 40 always had a higher fire rate btw.
18 Apr 2014, 11:35 AM
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the most stupid thing was that in real life, ZIS-3 had way faster rate of fire than the pak-40.
I would like if for example PAK-40 had 170 penetration,slow rate of fire, ZIS-3 would have 150 pen, but faster rate of fire.
I would like if for example PAK-40 had 170 penetration,slow rate of fire, ZIS-3 would have 150 pen, but faster rate of fire.
18 Apr 2014, 11:38 AM
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The next patch will buff Soviet AT, can we stop complaining about it now?
Wait, so German blitzkrieg is being removed??? Where did you see that?
18 Apr 2014, 11:43 AM
#216
Posts: 618
Wait, so German blitzkrieg is being removed??? Where did you see that?
That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets.
Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.
18 Apr 2014, 11:55 AM
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That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets.
Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.
As if IS2's and ISU's would need more AT. They do huge damage when they manage to penetrate.
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18 Apr 2014, 12:23 PM
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That's nerfing the Germans not buffing the Soviets.
Blitzkrieg isn't being removed, but Soviet AT will be buffed.
Well, Soviet AT can only improve when that is removed because it doesn't matter how well positioned your AT weapons are, if a P4 or panther or Tiger can just lolkrieg in and kill everything.
18 Apr 2014, 12:28 PM
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As if IS2's and ISU's would need more AT. They do huge damage when they manage to penetrate.
Damage =! DPS.
It doesn't matter if ISU does one big hit, when it will be smoking wreck before being able to shoot another one.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
18 Apr 2014, 12:38 PM
#220
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WHY.
6 men weapon crew and artillery barrage thats why
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