KV-8 Post-WFA
15 Dec 2014, 14:41 PM
#21
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I think KV-8 needs a bit of a damage buff, it has a very difficult time killing blobs.
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15 Dec 2014, 14:55 PM
#22
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KV-8 is fine as it is (or could use slight dmg boost as many of you said) and I really like using it - it's quite tough and it that can be deadly if used properly. Just remember it's a specialist unit - don't expect it to dominate the battlefield on its own.
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15 Dec 2014, 15:00 PM
#23
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In 4v4 I mostly see it used as a source of XP for shreck blobs.
15 Dec 2014, 15:12 PM
#24
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If anything needs a change about KV-8 it is the armor up to KV-1 level, so it doesn't melt against the units its supposed to hardcounter.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
15 Dec 2014, 15:15 PM
#25
Posts: 1439
If anything needs a change about KV-8 it is the armor up to KV-1 level, so it doesn't melt against the units its supposed to hardcounter.
Exactly. Buff frontal armour so these Shreks bounce of it more often. Rear one leave as it is right now. Same goes for its HP pool.
15 Dec 2014, 15:24 PM
#26
Posts: 84
now is in a decent spot
like using it for the lulz
all soviet units deserve to be in that spot
15 Dec 2014, 15:25 PM
#27
Posts: 135
KV8, sherman crocodile, what´s the difference?
15 Dec 2014, 15:35 PM
#28
Posts: 62
KV8, sherman crocodile, what´s the difference?
Oh man, can you imagine how useless the Crocodile would be, given the current state of handheld AT?
15 Dec 2014, 16:51 PM
#29
Posts: 135
It´s not like there is a huge gap between their performance. But yeah I guess it might be little more durable. Offensive capabilities though...
15 Dec 2014, 22:30 PM
#30
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the KV-8's dps can't be increased without becoming bullshit again but increasing the AoE would make it better against blobs without increasing the dps.
15 Dec 2014, 23:53 PM
#31
Posts: 4928
Blobs were mentioned 10 times in this thread, maybe blobbing is the problem and not the KV-8?
Nah blobbing can't be the problem, because blobs are easily countered™.
Nah blobbing can't be the problem, because blobs are easily countered™.
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16 Dec 2014, 00:00 AM
#32
Posts: 62
Well, you would think a unit like KV-8 would be a nice blob counter - alas, its poor armour and the shrecks' crazy efficiency kinda mess things up.
16 Dec 2014, 00:18 AM
#33
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Well, you would think a unit like KV-8 would be a nice blob counter - alas, its poor armour and the shrecks' crazy efficiency kinda mess things up.
Well you can't expect a 390MP/145F unit to counter 940MP/360MU by itself, because the blob costs a lot more™.
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16 Dec 2014, 00:22 AM
#34
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It's not good for charging into hordes, but aside from a T-70 it's a squad wiping machine on retreat. Maybe a slight price decrease or durability increase, but that's about it.
I don't want the old days where it killed squads in 2-3 seconds and that's not including flame crits.
I don't want the old days where it killed squads in 2-3 seconds and that's not including flame crits.
16 Dec 2014, 00:54 AM
#35
Posts: 647
schrecks are more likely to be the problem than kv8 itself. its armour cannot resist schreck hits and neither does it have the hp to tank them nor it has the dps/speed to shoot and scoot.
reducing schreck efficiency at range, buff rakenten to compensate, kv8 and other medium tanks will suddenly shine.
reducing schreck efficiency at range, buff rakenten to compensate, kv8 and other medium tanks will suddenly shine.
16 Dec 2014, 01:21 AM
#36
Posts: 431
I never use it anymore. I don't like getting tanks that have no AT capability as any faction, honestly, but the real nail in the coffin for this unit is (the mega nerfs it got long ago aside) shrek blobs. You just can't risk running your tanks up to them. At least with other tanks, you can kind of stay out of range. I'm sure it has a place, but I sure don't like using such a risky unit, even if it can occasionally pay off.
16 Dec 2014, 03:42 AM
#37
Posts: 262
Well you can't expect a 390MP/145F unit to counter 940MP/360MU by itself, because the blob costs a lot more™.
Though that seemingly makes sense, I don't buy into that school of thought.
The kv8's entire purpose in life is anti infantry. I would like to see a small buff to it's armor to help it bounce a few more shrecks
16 Dec 2014, 04:50 AM
#38
Posts: 4928
Though that seemingly makes sense, I don't buy into that school of thought.
The kv8's entire purpose in life is anti infantry. I would like to see a small buff to it's armor to help it bounce a few more shrecks
I'm not being serious, I'm parodying the "Machine Guns shouldn't counter blobs because blobs cost more" line of thinking that comes into every 'buff MG' or 'nerf blobs' thread.
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16 Dec 2014, 07:09 AM
#39
Posts: 934
KV8 is fine I think.
You have to be careful now to not overextend it, but if it is in the correct position at the right time it can really push Axis around. KV8 just needs a lot more vision support than it used to, which is a good thing.
You have to be careful now to not overextend it, but if it is in the correct position at the right time it can really push Axis around. KV8 just needs a lot more vision support than it used to, which is a good thing.
16 Dec 2014, 09:05 AM
#40
Posts: 133
Actually took the time to try out the kv8. It works alright. But honestly in every situation, except for killing OKW trucks, id rather have a kv-1.
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