USF Assault Engineers (A.K.A. GODS)
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Permanently BannedMY assault engees in green cover beat a yellow cover strum pios squad. I WAS SHOCKED! Pre-patch they would die to everything.
Give engees BARS. They become RAMBO! They perform well of above their price of 280mp.
Truly gods. they are beating most units they they normally lose too
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Dear god! These guys are the kings of the battle field! soo good!
MY assault engees in green cover beat a yellow cover strum pios squad. I WAS SHOCKED! Pre-patch they would die to everything.
Give engees BARS. They become RAMBO! They perform well of above their price of 280mp.
Truly gods. they are beating most units they they normally lose too
That is not god like, that is acting as they should. Green cover is like hiding behind a metal wall while yellow cover is like being behind foliage. That is not even counting if the Sturmpios approached from long range into medium or short range.
280 MP unit with bars? of course they preform way above their price, you added 60 munition to the cost of the unit. It would be pretty sad if you upgraded a unit and it didnt get any better.
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being a doctrinal unit they ought to kill sturm pios, especially when theyre in better cover.
Doctrinal unit does not mean "better", by that logic Ostruppen should be the tits as well, but that would be silly
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Sturmpioneers were nerfed as well, so that is also a factor in why Assault Engineers are doing better.
Assault Engineers decimate Sturmpioneers, and effectively everything else. Their DPS at 10 meters is higher than Sturmpioneers DPS at 4.
280 MP unit with bars? of course they preform way above their price, you added 60 munition to the cost of the unit. It would be pretty sad if you upgraded a unit and it didnt get any better.
Actually before 15 meters, the BAR actually makes them worse.
BAR Max DPS at 5 Meters: 10.4789
M3 Max DPS at 10 Meters: 17.1930
Personally I think for their current performance, Assault Engineers should cost 360 Manpower and come at 1CP.
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Doctrinal unit does not mean "better", by that logic Ostruppen should be the tits as well, but that would be silly
no but theyre the usf equivalent of a sturmpioneer, and they are locked into a doctrine.
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Assault Engineers decimate Sturmpioneers, and effectively everything else. Their DPS at 10 meters is higher than Sturmpioneers DPS at 4.
Actually before 15 meters, the BAR actually makes them worse.
BAR Max DPS at 5 Meters: 10.4789
M3 Max DPS at 10 Meters: 17.1930
Personally I think for their current performance, Assault Engineers should cost 360 Manpower and come at 1CP.
no way, 360 manpower is elite infantry level cost. assault engineers are in the same boat as sturmpios, theyre really good until the mid game at which point they become increasingly useless.
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no way, 360 manpower is elite infantry level cost. assault engineers are in the same boat as sturmpios, theyre really good until the mid game at which point they become increasingly useless.
The sheer DPS they put out puts them within "Elite Infantry" territory. They do more DPS than Sturmpioneers or Panzergrenadiers, while costing less. The only squad with higher DPS are Shock Troops, and they only have more because they have 6 members instead of 4. Even 5 Shock Troop model have less DPS than 4 Assault Engineers models.
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The sheer DPS they put out puts them within "Elite Infantry" territory. They do more DPS than Sturmpioneers or Panzergrenadiers, while costing less. The only squad with higher DPS are Shock Troops, and they only have more because they have 6 members instead of 4. Even 5 Shock Troop model have less DPS than 4 Assault Engineers models.
So they need a DPS nerf.
I dont know why Relic jacked it up past all other CC units...
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Grease guns beating the shit out of units with Stg44
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Doctrinal unit does not mean "better", by that logic Ostruppen should be the tits as well, but that would be silly
Osttruppen are performing very good for its cost now !!!!
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Seems legit
Edit: Oh I forgot about the Flamer upgrade
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Axis are tasting their own medicine and do not like it.
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Low durability, high dps squad.
Axis are tasting their own medicine and do not like it.
Wouldn't be so bad if they weren't cheaper and far more effective than Sturmpioneers are now...
Logic man, USE SOME FOR ONCE!
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Low durability, high dps squad.
Axis are tasting their own medicine and do not like it.
I don't think they're an issue as OKW, sturmpios deal with them just fine if the AssEngies have to run up to you and they're not exactly cheap to reinforce. But starting with 3 assengies against ostheer on a map that isn't langres or crossing is stupidly powerful because grens and pios don't do anything to the engies (you need two grens far away from each other to force off one assengie squad) and the only way MG42s will be effective is if you guess exactly where your opponent is going to be for the first few engagements. Map control ends up being even worse than against rifles and then you get the usual lieutenant light vehicle rush to seal the deal.
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