USF Assault Engineers (A.K.A. GODS)

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 13:53 PMCruzz

I don't think they're an issue as OKW, sturmpios deal with them just fine if the AssEngies have to run up to you and they're not exactly cheap to reinforce. But starting with 3 assengies against ostheer on a map that isn't langres or crossing is stupidly powerful because grens and pios don't do anything to the engies (you need two grens far away from each other to force off one assengie squad) and the only way MG42s will be effective is if you guess exactly where your opponent is going to be for the first few engagements. Map control ends up being even worse than against rifles and then you get the usual lieutenant light vehicle rush to seal the deal.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 17:09 PMASneakyFox

now the assault engineers swapped places with the sturmpios and its an outrage.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 06:54 AMMr. Someguy

The sheer DPS they put out puts them within "Elite Infantry" territory. They do more DPS than Sturmpioneers or Panzergrenadiers, while costing less. The only squad with higher DPS are Shock Troops, and they only have more because they have 6 members instead of 4. Even 5 Shock Troop model have less DPS than 4 Assault Engineers models.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 13:48 PMKatitof

Low durability, high dps squad.

Axis are tasting their own medicine and do not like it.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 17:21 PMbutterfingers158

Thompson Paratroopers have the highest DPS in the game unless something changed drastically, which I doubt since Thompsons were also buffed.

Using pre patch numbers here until new DPS numbers are posted:

6x Shocks: 6*11.848=71.088 for 390 manpower
4x Assault Engies: 4*17.193= 68.772 for 280 manpower
6x Paratroopers (4x Thompsons): 4*16.278+2*7.597=80.306 for 380 manpower 90 munitions

Survivability goes Shocks>Paratroopers>Assault Engies

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 17:09 PMASneakyFox

id agree that a minor nerf for engineers firepower might make sense. but the fact that they beat sturmpios is completely logical, and that shouldnt be changed.

Whats fascinating is when i brought up the incredible firepower of sturmpios pre-patch in another thread all the responses were "nah man theyre totally fine its balanced, you just need to bring bars grenades and shock troopers and you can beat them"

now the assault engineers swapped places with the sturmpios and its an outrage.

Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 19:33 PMAchtAchter

If you'd give Axis infantry the capabilites of Riflmen everything would be fine.