B4 artillery?

Can someone tell me the reason why this howie can one shot a full health Panther, with pin-point accuracy?

I am not talking about history so we don't need to state reality. If someone really wants to give history lecture, I don't mind but remember we are talking about the game.

Any thought?

It's pretty much shit in 2v2 on Semois. Or Pripyat obviously.

If you don't have a recon/bombing doc on, just surrender, it will get you eventually with the 160 muni LOLBLAST or before that.

Can someone tell me the reason why this howie can one shot a full health Panther, with pin-point accuracy?

I am not talking about history so we don't need to state reality. If someone really wants to give history lecture, I don't mind but remember we are talking about the game.

Any thought?

because one-shot is all it does. It's really slow to move and fire, and pretty innacurate without it's precision shot which is much more expensive then other precision shots. If it actually manages to hit it should do a ton of damage.

I think the B4 is quite bad and not worth the cost. The anti-tank mode is terribly slow and unless the other player is asleep at the wheel, is usually worthless.

Use the resources and get a Rocket launcher truck. (far, far more useful).

It is more crazy when it one shot Pak43 or leFH howie

I prefer B4 than katyusha.

In a 2vs2 game it save us often. Finish a tiger or AT or stop his attack with a direct hit.

Only one shot but very high damage and a very low CD.

Better game done with it : 4 shots + 2 direct hit -> kill 1 tiger, 4 wefer 1 panther and 2 PG. HEAVY luck also

Can someone tell me the reason why this howie can one shot a full health Panther, with pin-point accuracy?

I am not talking about history so we don't need to state reality. If someone really wants to give history lecture, I don't mind but remember we are talking about the game.

Any thought?

Because:
you see things

It can not one shoot panther, because its damage is lower then panthers health.
It have hard time to one shoot P4.

In 4on4s these things are a nightmare to fight against. You really have to keep moving all the time, otherwise it will reliably oneshot infantry squads and tanks without any prewarning (this also means the first shot you won't know about until it is too late). Tigers can survive a shot if on full health at least. If you have a damaged engine on a tank, you cannot even escape from it though or try to repair it.

Maybe it is map dependent, I have not tried the B4 myself since I don't have the commander, but on the maps where it works it feels silly currently.

It cannot one-shot panther? are you sure? I have already seen that kind of crap in one of my 2v2 games, I dont know where it hit, but the B4 killed it instantly.

From the german perspective, a B4 worries me more than a simple Katyusha, tbh.

Usually the one one shot shenanigans has to do with Mark Target, I believe, since it gives sight and stuff as well. I've seen it one-shot a Tiger from full health.

with pin-point accuracy?

Is its accuracy really pin-pointed?

It was probably used either AT directly shot for 180 munition.

It cannot one-shot panther? are you sure? I have already seen that kind of crap in one of my 2v2 games, I dont know where it hit, but the B4 killed it instantly.

From the german perspective, a B4 worries me more than a simple Katyusha, tbh.

You've said it yourself.
2v2.

That means Mark Target.

I've 2 shooted elephant with that using B-4.

Because:
you see things

It can not one shoot panther, because its damage is lower then panthers health.
It have hard time to one shoot P4.

Usually the one one shot shenanigans has to do with Mark Target, I believe, since it gives sight and stuff as well. I've seen it one-shot a Tiger from full health.

A Vet 3 B4 can one-shot a Panther in any fire mode (standard, precision, or direct), while even a fresh B4 firing at a Marked Target can one-shot a Tiger or Elefant (the 2 highest HP vehicles in the game iirc). A B4 without Vet or Mark Target can still one-shot a Panzer IV. The highest possible damage it can do is a Vet 3 B4 attacking a Marked Target vehicle, for 1920 damage (well over any unit HP in the game).

I dislike the B4 because it relies on RNG before gaining vet. After it does gain vet its cool down is pretty short and unlike other artillery that continues to fire at a certain location, giving the other player a chance to avoid it, it fires only once and then cools down quickly.

I don't think the B4 should have been added to the game simply because of how RNG dependent it is. It also wipes squads and destroys the idea of unit preservation again.

To address the above comments, with the precision strike it is very accurate. At vet 3 it gains damage, so I think it can one shot a panther then (or it only takes a small amount of damage if it can't). It will definitely two shot tigers and elephants.

It also wipes squads and destroys the idea of unit preservation again.

Pro hint:
Every single indirect fire unit does that.

And don't confuse unit preservation with "units should never die to anything".

Is its accuracy really pin-pointed?

No, it's accuracy is actually pretty bad. If you get vet1 though it can use precision shot for 80 munis which is pin-point.

Pro hint:
Every single indirect fire unit does that.

And don't confuse unit preservation with "units should never die to anything".

Katitof, I won't be baited into an ad hominem flame war here, but you are trying.

Every single indirect fire unit has the potential to one shot wipe squads, which is normal. But there are many more than there used to be and it is generally not great for game play.

I never said that units should never die, but players who are good at keeping units alive to vet 3 should be rewarded. In contrast, a player who loses many vet units who wipes them with a call is being rewarded for the wrong thing. Basically we are saying don't worry about your micro rely on RNG.

Please don't "Pro-tip" me, I have plenty of experience against the B4 and with it.

Katitof, I won't be baited into an ad hominem flame war here, but you are trying.

I'm not sure if you know what ad hominem means...

Every single indirect fire unit has the potential to one shot wipe squads, which is normal. But there are many more than there used to be and it is generally not great for game play.

No, not really. It was not uncommon to see 2 arty pieces in vCoH, even in 1v1 really often. VCoH one shot squad death potential was infinitively greater then in CoH2.
Here, its 1 such unit per game, unless game lasts ages or is bigger then 2v2.

I never said that units should never die, but players who are good at keeping units alive to vet 3 should be rewarded. In contrast, a player who loses many vet units who wipes them with a call is being rewarded for the wrong thing. Basically we are saying don't worry about your micro rely on RNG.

Oh, but you did, by complaining that arty kills them. Vet3 vcoh squads also died to arty one shots, vet3 PE infantry died en masse to ami starfe that couldn't be avoided.
as I've said, you're confusing terms by thinking that vet3 squads should be able to survive through everything and anything. They won't and they shouldn't. Even DoW2 terminators could die to global nuke and global nukes often annihilated most of your army in one go and that game was MUCH more about unit preservation then vCoH or CoH2 will ever be.

Basically we are saying RNG is a huge part of CoH series and whether you like it or not, you need to accept it.
Luck is as important as skill in CoH series, always was. Or you believe that things T-70 driving over teller mine is a skill?

Please don't "Pro-tip" me, I have plenty of experience against the B4 and with it.

The please, don't make it sound like B-4 is the only unit in game that can one shot things, because there is plenty of other things, many of them on german side as well.

Its like a 50kg stuka bomb for 80munis in vet1, right?