Hands on Western Fronts Armies
8 Jun 2014, 13:23 PM
#621
Posts: 1063
Thx so any news about the War Spoils system? Will it be random-drop like TF2 or level-based like DOW2? Can players get new commanders simply by playing the game?
8 Jun 2014, 13:51 PM
#622
Posts: 1063
Vehicles come REAL late and sparingly. You have to use your sturmpioneers and kubelwagen for taking over the middle VP's, possibly pushing into their fuel to survive the late game. OKW have a good early game, but they are screwed late game.
You must also prepare yourself by building up early AT somehow. Massed tanks will be coming from your enemy, and yourself having more expensive tanks and 1/3rd the income is not in your favor..
Hey so does the bonus from caches and Opels get reduced too? If not than Assault Support Commander will be OKW's best buddies. Opels + Strafe will give KT a field day.
8 Jun 2014, 13:58 PM
#623
Posts: 1571
Ratekenwerfer is decent. Ofc Pak40 is far superior but they will do.
Good. It looks like some sort of troll unit due to its size...
Take note that the second truck that is on the field at the 4th minute can produce panthers. i doubt they need such excessive AT
Good point. Now that I've looked at it again, Spanky is 180 fuel by Minute 14. Someone here said that OKW has good early and mid game, but then poor late game.
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Overall, it looks like Heavy Panzer Headquarters is a very skippable tier.
8 Jun 2014, 14:52 PM
#624
Posts: 2779
Ostheer Luftwaffe supply + OKW Luftwaffe doctrine = 
8 Jun 2014, 15:05 PM
#625
Posts: 1571
8 Jun 2014, 15:12 PM
#626
Posts: 1571
OKW preview
http://www.coh2.org/news/18262/oberkommando-west-army-preview
Command Headquarters
1. Sturmpioneers
2. Kubelwagen
3. Volksgrenadiers
4. Raketenwerfer 43
Battlegroup Headquarters
1.75mm infantry support gun
2.Panzer II Luchs light tank
3.SdKfz 251/20 Infrared Halftrack
4.PzKpfw V Panther
Mechanized Regiment Headquarters
1.SdKfz 234 Puma
2.SdKfz 251/17 Flak Halftrack
3.SdKfz 251 Stuka zu Fuss aka Walking Stuka Rocket Halftrack
4.Jagdpanzer IV/70V
Schwerer Panzer Headquarters
* Comes with convert munitions to fuel ability
1.Obersoldaten
2.PzKpfw VI Königstiger
3.Sturmtiger
http://www.coh2.org/news/18262/oberkommando-west-army-preview
Command Headquarters
1. Sturmpioneers
2. Kubelwagen
3. Volksgrenadiers
4. Raketenwerfer 43
Battlegroup Headquarters
1.75mm infantry support gun
2.Panzer II Luchs light tank
3.SdKfz 251/20 Infrared Halftrack
4.PzKpfw V Panther
Mechanized Regiment Headquarters
1.SdKfz 234 Puma
2.SdKfz 251/17 Flak Halftrack
3.SdKfz 251 Stuka zu Fuss aka Walking Stuka Rocket Halftrack
4.Jagdpanzer IV/70V
Schwerer Panzer Headquarters
* Comes with convert munitions to fuel ability
1.Obersoldaten
2.PzKpfw VI Königstiger
3.Sturmtiger
8 Jun 2014, 18:49 PM
#627
Posts: 1571
So it looks to me now that the first two buildings are a must build (especially on fuel and muni points)
Basic, must build units:
1. Sturmpioneers
2. Kubelwagen
3. Volksgrenadiers
4. Raketenwerfer 43
5. PzKpfw V Panther or Jagdpanzer IV/70V
Everything else is support.
Basic, must build units:
1. Sturmpioneers
2. Kubelwagen
3. Volksgrenadiers
4. Raketenwerfer 43
5. PzKpfw V Panther or Jagdpanzer IV/70V
Everything else is support.
8 Jun 2014, 19:02 PM
#628
Posts: 622 | Subs: 1
All you guys talk great and stuff... But where is my fucking jeep ? alpha yet ?
8 Jun 2014, 19:14 PM
#629
Posts: 2053
The American jeep is a doctrinal unit, and it can also transport a squad.
8 Jun 2014, 19:20 PM
#630
Posts: 1571
T1 :
- Riflemen
- WC54 3/4 Ton Ambulance
- Rear Echelon troops
T2 :
- M20
- M116 howitzer
- M1917 Browning Heavy Machine Gun Team
- Lieutenant
T3 :
- Captain
- M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun
- M15A1 CGMC Halftrack
- M5A1 Stuart
T4 :
- Major
- M4A3 Sherman medium tank
- M36 Jackson tank destroyer
- M8A1 howitzer motor carriage
http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/55534-us-forces-stock-units
8 Jun 2014, 20:09 PM
#631
Posts: 1571
Basic, must build units:
- Riflemen
- WC54 3/4 Ton Ambulance
- Rear Echelon troops
- M20
- Lieutenant
Then T3 and T4 remind me of US vCOH- T3 can possibly be skipped
- Major
- M36 Jackson tank destroyer
- Riflemen
- WC54 3/4 Ton Ambulance
- Rear Echelon troops
- M20
- Lieutenant
Then T3 and T4 remind me of US vCOH- T3 can possibly be skipped
- Major
- M36 Jackson tank destroyer
8 Jun 2014, 20:34 PM
#632
Posts: 4928
I just noticed the MG 42 is removed from the Ostheer Panzer IV unless you upgrade it:
Personally I like it much more that way, it's something I've always wanted. It looks much sleeker now.
Personally I like it much more that way, it's something I've always wanted. It looks much sleeker now.
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8 Jun 2014, 20:59 PM
#633
Posts: 978
The game will contain "Obersoldaten". Relic, really? Is it so hard to get someone who can actually speak German at your place? Hell, I would have made it for free.
Well, okay we will have to deal with "Over-soldiers" then. I just pray there won´t be a voice-line: "Obersoldaten reporting."
Well, okay we will have to deal with "Over-soldiers" then. I just pray there won´t be a voice-line: "Obersoldaten reporting."
8 Jun 2014, 21:03 PM
#634
Posts: 17896 | Subs: 8
Well, I can't complain on their name in my native language version, its suitable and awesome, not sure if I can share it yet thou.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
8 Jun 2014, 21:07 PM
#635
Posts: 4928
The game will contain "Obersoldaten". Relic, really? Is it so hard to get someone who can actually speak German at your place? Hell, I would have made it for free.
Well, okay we will have to deal with "Over-soldiers" then. I just pray there won´t be a voice-line: "Obersoldaten reporting."
I talked to my German friend and he said Obersoldaten means "most important soldiers" or "high ranking soldiers", so while it's still odd, it doesn't seem so bad.
Well, I can't complain on their name in my native language version, its suitable and awesome, not sure if I can share it yet thou.
Well we all know Obersoldaten exist, and I don't think localisation is under NDA
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8 Jun 2014, 21:08 PM
#636
Posts: 17896 | Subs: 8
Behold then the Honor Guard.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
8 Jun 2014, 21:21 PM
#637
Posts: 978
I´m German too and I have never ever heard of that word.
I talked to my German friend and he said Obersoldaten means "most important soldiers" or "high ranking soldiers", so while it's still odd, it doesn't seem so bad.
8 Jun 2014, 21:23 PM
#638
Posts: 2053
There is a first time for everything... Couldnt be worse than anglican soviets.
8 Jun 2014, 21:36 PM
#639
Posts: 4928
Behold then the Honor Guard.
That's badass.
I´m German too and I have never ever heard of that word.
I went back to ask my friend and he heard it before, I know another German I can ask later
Even if it's not a real unit, neither were "Shock Troops" or "Conscripts". Shock Troops were "Assault Engineers" and carried explosives to clear obstacles and defenses, and Conscripts were just trained and organized among the rest of the Infantry and not a distinguished unit type.all you filthy hotchkiss lovers need to l2p #TeamPanzerIII
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8 Jun 2014, 21:38 PM
#640
Posts: 578
The game will contain "Obersoldaten". Relic, really? Is it so hard to get someone who can actually speak German at your place? Hell, I would have made it for free.
Well, okay we will have to deal with "Over-soldiers" then. I just pray there won´t be a voice-line: "Obersoldaten reporting."
There was something in the wehrmacht called "Oberschütze" which was also sometimes called "Obersoldat".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obersch%C3%BCtze
Oberschütze=Obersoldat
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