So does anyone ever actually use Osttruppen reserve ?
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And yes, I'm not a fan of this ability either. I did manage to get 3 ostruppen from a single use before (which means that I lost 15 or more models which is sad), but most of the times I'm like "dam, this was a situation where I should have activated it".
In theory if you manage to get some ostruppen from using it once, then the next time it should be easier to get more, due to ostruppen being squishy. However most people reserve their munition for more reliable abilities in said doctrines, like sector artillery or Stuka AT loiter.
The similar Rapid Conscription for soviets is probably a bit easier to use in this regard and grants a much better replacement infantry, thanks to the 7 men upgrade, but I'm still not fond of it.
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The similar Rapid Conscription for soviets is probably a bit easier to use in this regard and grants a much better replacement infantry, thanks to the 7 men upgrade, but I'm still not fond of it.
I also feel that the soviet counterpart of this ability is also better due to the fact that cons can merge. So if you lose 12 Models on Your 2 Mgs + Zis 3 Gun you can use them to reinforce
Osttruppen on the other hand are just meh infantry and might even make the situation overall worse for you, as they lower your MP income, which makes it harder to reinforce your units that suffered casulties ( which in this case are probably G 43 grens )
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For Festung Support I would propose cp0 ostruppen or hull down. It's a defensive doctrine, these could fit imo.
For Lightning War it would be Assault and Hold from Infantry commander, goes well with the doctrine's nature.
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I'd still recommend to either replace it or rework to an ability that temporarily lowers reinforcement costs.
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Imo a replacement for Relief Infantry would be easier than trying to balance it, it is just too random and the benefits are questionable.
For Festung Support I would propose cp0 ostruppen or hull down. It's a defensive doctrine, these could fit imo.
For Lightning War it would be Assault and Hold from Infantry commander, goes well with the doctrine's nature.
Replacing them would be my proposal too. But please no more Osttruppen doctrines. Imo the "Osttruppen Doctrine" should have stayed the only one with CP 0 Osttruppen ( I mean ... it is literally named Osttruppen doctrine )
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Target size 1 with the ability to merge but not reinforce so that these units can be used to reinforce front line units.
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if it had either 120 second active time like before or only 4 models required it would be fine.
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Better to just remove thouse abilities and replace them with underused abilities from existing commanders.
Considering there are only 2 german and 2 soviet commanders using it.
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Like pay 90 munitions to quickly replenish your infantry and push out into another immediate assault, the relief infantry would be a bonus.
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