We replace t0 mortar with a scout car instead
it would make usf more fun
USF what if
19 Aug 2020, 19:29 PM
#1
Posts: 469
19 Aug 2020, 19:37 PM
#2
Posts: 110
M3 with assengie crew pls.
Price 180 mp 10 fuel and ability to drop a bazooka without rak teching.
Price 180 mp 10 fuel and ability to drop a bazooka without rak teching.
19 Aug 2020, 19:37 PM
#3
Posts: 5279
The purpose of the mortar is to give usf a fuel free way to dislodge/ clear garrisons as they lack a nondoc flame thrower. A car will not help in this regard
#stalinwept
19 Aug 2020, 20:35 PM
#4
Posts: 518
what if we replace T0 HMG 42 of OST with a Tiger I for the price of 30 Manpower ?
It would make OST more fun
Jokes aside. Bad idea. No need for it. Soutcar ( assuming you mean the WC 51 ) is OP anyways and "making the game more fun for one side" usually means "making the game more easier for one side"
It would make OST more fun
Jokes aside. Bad idea. No need for it. Soutcar ( assuming you mean the WC 51 ) is OP anyways and "making the game more fun for one side" usually means "making the game more easier for one side"
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
19 Aug 2020, 20:50 PM
#5
Posts: 416 | Subs: 1
For historical reasons, I support a very mechanized portrayal of US Forces. I also miss the Jeep.
I think it's too late for CoH2, though.
I think it's too late for CoH2, though.
20 Aug 2020, 04:19 AM
#6
Posts: 4928
For historical reasons, I support a very mechanized portrayal of US Forces. I also miss the Jeep.
I think it's too late for CoH2, though.
I still firmly believe that USF should have had HQ trucks, OKW should have had Officers (German propaganda heavily emphasized the role of officers in battle), Soviets should have Vet 5 (they fought the whole damn war).
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20 Aug 2020, 13:10 PM
#7
Posts: 518
I still firmly believe that USF should have had HQ trucks, OKW should have had Officers (German propaganda heavily emphasized the role of officers in battle), Soviets should have Vet 5 (they fought the whole damn war).
For historical reasons, I support a very mechanized portrayal of US Forces. I also miss the Jeep.
I think it's too late for CoH2, though.
I might be wrong, but aren't OKW and USF simply meant to represent the forces that took part during the Battle of the Bulge and not the USF / OB West in general ? ( That's also why you got paradrop as OKW )
Edit: Just remembered that USF also has Pershing ... so yea. Simply forget my words
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
20 Aug 2020, 13:35 PM
#8
Posts: 268
its super idea. WC51 in T0 like kubel or UC.
Driver, let's get this show on the road.
20 Aug 2020, 23:54 PM
#9
Posts: 888
I might be wrong, but aren't OKW and USF simply meant to represent the forces that took part during the Battle of the Bulge and not the USF / OB West in general ? ( That's also why you got paradrop as OKW )
Edit: Just remembered that USF also has Pershing ... so yea. Simply forget my words
I think so. That's why USF is such a garbage faction and OKW is OP by comparison.
I say include the Scout Car with the existing units. USF has by far the worst starting game of any faction, they could use a boost there.
21 Aug 2020, 00:04 AM
#10
Posts: 4183 | Subs: 4
its super idea. WC51 in T0 like kubel or UC.
If unit A has something, it doesn't mean that unit B should have it as well. This is the answer given to me by Axis fans for many comparisons. So stormioners don't have the right to get it all together.
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21 Aug 2020, 01:00 AM
#11
Posts: 5279
I think so. That's why USF is such a garbage faction and OKW is OP by comparison.
I say include the Scout Car with the existing units. USF has by far the worst starting game of any faction, they could use a boost there.
I couldn't agree more I think step 1 though would be giving the Jackson AT LEAST as much AI as the elefant has. That will really help level out the usf late game
#stalinwept
21 Aug 2020, 01:11 AM
#12
Posts: 888
I couldn't agree more I think step 1 though would be giving the Jackson AT LEAST as much AI as the elefant has. That will really help level out the usf late game
Actually giving it an alternate HE round to switch to would in fact be a good idea despite the obvious sarcasm.
21 Aug 2020, 06:42 AM
#13
Posts: 783
Actually giving it an alternate HE round to switch to would in fact be a good idea despite the obvious sarcasm.
As long as that HE round sucks against infantry i guess that's ok.
21 Aug 2020, 20:54 PM
#14
Posts: 4928
Maybe if it was a targetted ability and not a switchable ammo type, but I don't think the Jackson should be entrenching on the Sherman's role. But I see no reason the Jackson should have any AI capability.
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24 Aug 2020, 12:27 PM
#15
Posts: 1563
The purpose of the mortar is to give usf a fuel free way to dislodge/ clear garrisons as they lack a nondoc flame thrower. A car will not help in this regard
question then why don't OKW and Brit get t0 indirect arty????
24 Aug 2020, 12:43 PM
#16
Posts: 3602 | Subs: 1
question then why don't OKW and Brit get t0 indirect arty????
Cuz they are different.
The idea behind T0 mortar is that whatever tier you unlock you'll always have access to the mortar. Now if you ask me then why not making it unlock after first officer unlock, I'd reply because it was then the idea to force USF to build something else than rifle,rifle,rifle early game. Bit of failure in that way we can agree on that.
24 Aug 2020, 13:04 PM
#17
Posts: 498
I'm pretty sure that the mortar is there to provide a smoke alternative against ostheer's early game hmg play. I mean one could unlock grenades and use the RE's smoke, but that costs both fuel and muni.
What's weird for me is that on the other hand OKW doesn't have any early game smoke. But they have T0 AT gun at least... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What's weird for me is that on the other hand OKW doesn't have any early game smoke. But they have T0 AT gun at least... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
24 Aug 2020, 14:24 PM
#18
Posts: 5279
question then why don't OKW and Brit get t0 indirect arty????
Because these factions have different approaches to mgs. Okw being out maneuvering and brute force as well as a rapid unlock of the flame nade. Granted I wish for sturms to get smoke nades at some point as leig only smoke is fairly restrictive for a aggressive faction.
At any rate the only early mgs okw will face early on are not exceptional at suppression like the mg42 so being able to smoke out an Mg isn't as huge a problem.
Basicly different armies face different obstacles and when rifles could be matched squad for squad with mgs and no hope of every getting through an alternative had to be provided.
Brits on the other hand have alternative ways to dig out mgs, as the vickers will out trade them and the bren allows you to out maneuver them.
I'm pretty sure that the mortar is there to provide a smoke alternative against ostheer's early game hmg play. I mean one could unlock grenades and use the RE's smoke, but that costs both fuel and muni.
What's weird for me is that on the other hand OKW doesn't have any early game smoke. But they have T0 AT gun at least... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yea I'd like some more smoke for okw just for the tactical avenues it opens
#stalinwept
25 Aug 2020, 04:56 AM
#19
Posts: 3053
Ah yes because absolutely nobody is mad about the min0 doctrinal scout car USF gets.
Honestly though I kind of wish they did get something other than the mortar. The mortar just feels so out of place and pack howie is just miles better.
Honestly though I kind of wish they did get something other than the mortar. The mortar just feels so out of place and pack howie is just miles better.
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25 Aug 2020, 10:24 AM
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question then why don't OKW and Brit get t0 indirect arty????
Basically what other people said. I'd add though that Brits have the WASP if needed and get a quick T1 base arty as well.
OKW on the other hand does only face early MGs when playing against Brits. SOV and USF need some time to tech if the even chose that tech path (also the Maxim is real shite at suppression, I've had it more than once that Volks crawl across open field to throw a incendiary into my building), so at least against those factions an early mortar is not a must have.
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