Can someone tell me the pros/cons of:
Mg42
Mg34
Maxim
50-cal
Vickers
DsHKa(? The soviet call-in)
I'm looking for things like setup, arc, suppression rate, damage
HMG comparison?
9 Jan 2016, 19:34 PM
#1
Posts: 174
9 Jan 2016, 19:49 PM
#2
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MG42-
+ T0
+ best suppression
+ best damage for cost and great vet1 ability
-setup time
MG34-
+cheap
-low suppression
-low damage
Maxim-
+fast setup
+6 men crew
+best infantry you can get that actally kills stuff non doctrinal
-best infantry you can get that actually kills stuff non doctrinal
-low arc of fire
-you NEED to buy it in current meta or you'll lose, badly
-death loop
Vickers
like MG42 except more expensive and less suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
.50 cal
+mobile
+good dmg and suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
-comes too late to be of any use
-Dshk
+good damage
+somewhat mobile
+you can pick it if you don't go T2
-too late
-too expensive
-not THAT mobile compared to maxim
-same firing arc as maxim while less mobile
-only 2 doctrines, one is shitty, one is OK, but you need to spam maxims instead
-death loop
+ T0
+ best suppression
+ best damage for cost and great vet1 ability
-setup time
MG34-
+cheap
-low suppression
-low damage
Maxim-
+fast setup
+6 men crew
+best infantry you can get that actally kills stuff non doctrinal
-best infantry you can get that actually kills stuff non doctrinal
-low arc of fire
-you NEED to buy it in current meta or you'll lose, badly
-death loop
Vickers
like MG42 except more expensive and less suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
.50 cal
+mobile
+good dmg and suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
-comes too late to be of any use
-Dshk
+good damage
+somewhat mobile
+you can pick it if you don't go T2
-too late
-too expensive
-not THAT mobile compared to maxim
-same firing arc as maxim while less mobile
-only 2 doctrines, one is shitty, one is OK, but you need to spam maxims instead
-death loop
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
9 Jan 2016, 19:58 PM
#3
Posts: 521
The maxim/dshka are so damn broken
- goes in circles, so it sometimes take unnecessarily long to set up
- when moving/retreating, if the guy carrying the gun dies, they freeze for a bit
So, in my opinion, the maxim is the worst MG. Even worse than MG34.
MG42 has best suppression, so does 50 cal.
- goes in circles, so it sometimes take unnecessarily long to set up
- when moving/retreating, if the guy carrying the gun dies, they freeze for a bit
So, in my opinion, the maxim is the worst MG. Even worse than MG34.
MG42 has best suppression, so does 50 cal.
9 Jan 2016, 20:29 PM
#4
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Vickers
like MG42 except more expensive and less suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
MG42 feels like the best all around MG in the game. However, I could rave on for days about how great Vickers is, with respect to the synergy it receives from the faction it is in.
This is some of the most fun combos I could think of
1. Excellent damage vs garrisons
2. Siege mode at vet1 (trenches)
3. Best spotter unit
4. Destroy cover
5. Advanced window-making capabilities (aka PIATs)
6. Commnandos Doctrine smoke cover
7. All of the combos, together!
Sure, the MG42 is still better in 75% of the cases. It's nowhere near as fun and cool as the Vickers, though!
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
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https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
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9 Jan 2016, 20:41 PM
#5
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The maxim/dshka are so damn broken
- goes in circles, so it sometimes take unnecessarily long to set up
- when moving/retreating, if the guy carrying the gun dies, they freeze for a bit
So, in my opinion, the maxim is the worst MG. Even worse than MG34.
MG42 has best suppression, so does 50 cal.
This one is killing me when I see it.
9 Jan 2016, 21:24 PM
#6
Posts: 680
Having faced a Dshk in rl I can assure you that it's suppression should be insane.
Basically a Soviet anti tank rifle cartridge, and a big one at that ( Boys is just a necked up .50 cal) belted in a big fucking machine gun. Rumour has it it can kill you without even hitting you, though I don't know first hand for obvious reasons.
Excellent tips Mr.Smith, thank you! Gawd knows what the Brits would do without the Vickers. Seems to beat an MG 42 in garrison to garrison by inches, but it does.
Basically a Soviet anti tank rifle cartridge, and a big one at that ( Boys is just a necked up .50 cal) belted in a big fucking machine gun. Rumour has it it can kill you without even hitting you, though I don't know first hand for obvious reasons.
Excellent tips Mr.Smith, thank you! Gawd knows what the Brits would do without the Vickers. Seems to beat an MG 42 in garrison to garrison by inches, but it does.
9 Jan 2016, 22:05 PM
#7
Posts: 935
Now compare which one bugged the most
9 Jan 2016, 22:58 PM
#8
1 Posts: 422 | Subs: 3
The maxims going circles is because you try to set it up behind it, use right click or a move instead and you dont have to deal with the circles.
10 Jan 2016, 01:32 AM
#9
Posts: 196
MG42-
+ T0
+ best suppression
+ best damage for cost and great vet1 ability
-setup time
MG34-
+cheap
-low suppression
-low damage
Maxim-
+fast setup
+6 men crew
+best infantry you can get that actally kills stuff non doctrinal
-best infantry you can get that actually kills stuff non doctrinal
-low arc of fire
-you NEED to buy it in current meta or you'll lose, badly
-death loop
Vickers
like MG42 except more expensive and less suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
.50 cal
+mobile
+good dmg and suppression
-overpriced in relation to MG42
-comes too late to be of any use
-Dshk
+good damage
+somewhat mobile
+you can pick it if you don't go T2
-too late
-too expensive
-not THAT mobile compared to maxim
-same firing arc as maxim while less mobile
-only 2 doctrines, one is shitty, one is OK, but you need to spam maxims instead
-death loop
This nails it.
+1
10 Jan 2016, 04:12 AM
#10
Posts: 1891
Damage: MG42, Vickers, .50 Cal
Suppression: MG42, MG34, Maxim, .50 Cal
Mobility: .50 Cal, Maxim
Arc: Vickers, MG42, MG34, .50 Cal
Discounting special vet 1 abilities, tech placement, faction perks, and other things, it would be reasonable to call the MG42 and .50 Cal the best HMGs in game. BUT: 6 man squad, call-in synergy, and early access makes Maxim the best HMG in game, IMO.
Suppression: MG42, MG34, Maxim, .50 Cal
Mobility: .50 Cal, Maxim
Arc: Vickers, MG42, MG34, .50 Cal
Discounting special vet 1 abilities, tech placement, faction perks, and other things, it would be reasonable to call the MG42 and .50 Cal the best HMGs in game. BUT: 6 man squad, call-in synergy, and early access makes Maxim the best HMG in game, IMO.
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