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Such unit like Sturmtiger breaks the game. It one shot killes everything. Especially annoying when it hides behind some building or thick trees and wipes capping inf. There is no chance to survives when it hits and when it hits it kills anything in one shot.
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Demo charge does the exact same thing u said... should we also remove demo charges? IMO... Nope.
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It was just a suggestion...
Nobody complains about the B4 or the Priest today. People did complain about the B4 precision strike and now relic has decided to give that ability to on a 45 range vehicle that shoots through everything and doesn't at least have the easy 2-click counter that you can use until it gets fixed.
I don't know what AVRE is so I can't comment on that. Is it going to 1-shot units every 90 seconds?
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Permanently BannedOK, if the NDA lifted on this, I just tell you the story of COH2 AVRE.
AVRE frontally move into 2 rakentens, one stolen 6-pounder, one Panther. With 4 AT units shooting at the AVRE, AVRE one shot two Rakentens, in spite I instant retreat after they release the rockets, AVRE reversed into safety with 65% health, reload on the move.
This engagement looped until I have nothing left than my hopeless Panther.
Why didn't I pursue the AVRE with Panther? 17 pounder and Firefly, of course.
. Maybe You say to us what armor have this 2 units and RNG Kappa. Whine about units who was in alpha, but we dont know what it be in game (read relic alpha forum and listen testers that the question).
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I just wish to point out that 90% of you are complaining about a unit that is fundamentally the same as it was last patch.
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Let me try your weed.
I can foresee the anti-AVRE thread in September, will be 10X more chaos than this.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Actually, AVRE is most balanced out of them all because of range and aim time.
Anyway, I see this thread have gathered crapload of hypocrites who QQ about stuff like B4 or ISU but yet consider Sturm to be fine.
Double standards much?
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ISU has more armor, longer range, and can sight for itself. The B4 cost literally only 3 popcap, had at vet 1 100% accuracy over the entire map, and could do upwards of enough damage to 1 shot a Elefant or Tiger.
Comparing the old B4 and the Sturmtiger is just silly. Oh and the ISU doesn't have abandon chances on reload.
The AVRE has better armor, speed, and health than the Sturmtiger while having reload on the move, target tracking and of course a turret. The only thing it didn't have was 45-50 range; it just had 40. Which wasn't much of an issue since you couldn't run away anyway since it didn't need to stop to fire.
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So you consider a bug as a argument?
And even then, what next? You think you can afford to get double triple B4 (except 4v4).
Can B4 and Sturmtiger wipe entire army?
Yes.
Kill mediums?
Yes.
Shoot form Fog?
Yes.
Counter them with 2 clicks?
Only B4.
Reaviling position after first shot?
Only B4 (immobile).
Precision strike?
Only Sturmtiger.
Free precision strike?
Only Sturmtiger.
And again dont use bugs /bad design as an argument.
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Bug's are a part of balance so long as they are in the game, the B4 decrewing thing has been around since the commander has been out so at this point it's just "a feature". The old B4 was broken because it could 1 shot heavies at any range on the map, while the only thing the Sturmtiger can 1 shot is tanks with 640 health or less at a range of 45 or less.
I'm not saying the Sturmtiger is fine, but it's not nearly as abusive as the old B4 and I'm tired of people constantly trying to compare some mildly powerful unit to one of the most broken things in the game because they are bitter.
I support the Sturmtiger becoming a true artillery unit, it would give OKW something it desperately needs.
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Bugs are part of balance? Then we should nerf Sturmtiger since there is repair bug. So, nerf ST, right?
So since B4 cannot 1shot heavies why not give it precision? IT will shoot down only mediums just like ST.
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Except the ST doesn't cost only MP, it's limited to 1, has 45 range instead of several hundred, and whatnot and so forth. Stop trying to compare apples to oranges. It would be like me trying to compare Sturmpio's to a KV8 because both do good infantry damage.
Just get rid of the repair bug, problem solved. But if you think the Sturmtiger is "broken" on the level of the old B4 your nuts. Since literally every match people would go B4, were the Sturmtiger still isn't a popular unit.
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Demo charge does the exact same thing u said... should we also remove demo charges? IMO... Nope.
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I'd accept both being removed. Getting rid of demo would instantly improve CoH2.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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And axis blobbing.
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mod,please lock this thread we have a one similar thread,and no its not game breaking i just killed a sturmtiger with a stuart its clrearly l2p issue on ur side
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