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Realistic symbols/flags.

27 Nov 2014, 19:08 PM
#1
avatar of SS Panzer Division

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Am I the only one who thinks having the true symbols and flags used in this game would be a good idea? Why not use the nazi Germany flag for captured points when playing as the Germans? or have things like the swastika on tanks. The Germans literally covered everything with their symbols. It was a way of showing pride for themselves and it also helped put fear into the enemy at times. They were big on that and I think small things like this do add to a game.

In my honest opinion I think relic kind of cheaped out on that and the uniforms.

I know, it would offend a lot of people. But half the time you are going to offend someone anyway. You can't always keep everyone happy. They could add all of those flags and symbols in and have an opinion to censor it out in game if you don't like that kind of thing in your games. We see it in our movies all the time, it's all over the internet. Having a realistic flag or symbol in your game doesn't make you a nazi. Movies do it, so I really don't see why this game shouldn't.

I know, as I stated before a lot of people might be offended but that's why you'd add in a censor option in the game, so it would look just as it does now, but for people who are looking for it could have the option of not censoring it. Actually portraying a country correctly in a game is important in my opinion.

Am I the only one who thinks relic should consider this, with a censor option or am I just completely wrong here?
27 Nov 2014, 19:18 PM
#2
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I'm not suprised when I take a look at your nickname.

Proper uniforms and such is cool with me, symbols and everything else is fine as it is.
27 Nov 2014, 19:20 PM
#3
avatar of Neffarion

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they did remove because some people find it "offensive" and the symbol is banned in some countries.
But hey! Since an Hammer and Sickle is not "offensive" why not add all the symbols i guess. just my opinion
27 Nov 2014, 19:20 PM
#4
avatar of ferwiner
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They won't ever do this because that would break the law in some countries where the game is sold (for example in Germany). Some games like Silent Hunter V had those symbols at the beginning but those were removed when it started to couse problems.

On the other hand with mod support that we have now you can do it yourself or find appropriate mod on steam.
27 Nov 2014, 19:22 PM
#5
avatar of Smoky82

Posts: 37

I think thats a good idea for a realistic mod.
I dont Know if model skins are free to modificate, but i prefare realistic models and stuff,too.
In vCoh There are some skinpacks and mods that Use that realistic flags and models and stuff on the Tanks, realistic camouflage would be awesome,too.
Anybody knows if this things able to mod?
27 Nov 2014, 19:22 PM
#6
avatar of REforever

Posts: 314

I personally agree. Political correctness is the reason for why units, flags and etc are heavily changed/censored; it's a poison that affects both the host and the user and I hope one day it will be gone forever. Another interesting note is that here in Canada, the US and the UK(Where CoH sells most of its copies), it's not illegal to display Nazi or Soviet symbols but developers still choose to censor certain images.



I think Stephen Fry said it best: "It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?"

People are offended by Nazi and Soviet symbols? Who the hell cares?
27 Nov 2014, 19:23 PM
#7
avatar of SS Panzer Division

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they did remove because some people find it "offensive" and the symbol is banned in some countries.
But hey! Since an Hammer and Sickle is not "offensive" why not add all the symbols i guess. just my opinion



Yes, I don't just mean for the German side. that was an example. I meant for all, Russian and Americans, as well as any new country they might add in the future. The American flag, and as you said the Hammer and Sickle.
27 Nov 2014, 19:24 PM
#8
avatar of Australian Magic

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they did remove because some people find it "offensive" and the symbol is banned in some countries.
But hey! Since an Hammer and Sickle is not "offensive" why not add all the symbols i guess. just my opinion


Hammer and Sickle is still forbidden in some countries.


People are offended by Nazi and Soviet symbols? Who the hell cares?


I can forgive You this because You are from different continent.
27 Nov 2014, 19:25 PM
#9
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Nov 2014, 19:18 PMluvnest
I'm not suprised when I take a look at your nickname.

Proper uniforms and such is cool with me, symbols and everything else is fine as it is.


^Word to word what I would say.
27 Nov 2014, 19:28 PM
#10
avatar of Neffarion

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Hammer and Sickle is still forbidden in some countries.


true, but still, its in the game
27 Nov 2014, 19:30 PM
#11
avatar of BeltFedWombat
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There are enough pro-SS fanbois and fruitcakes as it is. Realistic SS insignia porn would only attract more of 'em.

So no.
27 Nov 2014, 19:31 PM
#12
avatar of Australian Magic

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true, but still, its in the game



That's because in the history Soviets were good ones, they were Allies, right? :lol:
27 Nov 2014, 19:32 PM
#13
avatar of Smoky82

Posts: 37

In vCOH you can free choose ure skins and flags,visional stuff and can still play Multiplayer. Would be great this works for COH2 too. Its another feeling play without that Bad uniforms and skins like now.
27 Nov 2014, 19:37 PM
#14
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Nov 2014, 19:32 PMSmoky82
In vCOH you can free choose ure skins and flags,visional stuff and can still play Multiplayer. Would be great this works for COH2 too. Its another feeling play without that Bad uniforms and skins like now.


You talk about skin mods that you and only you can see?
1)Its not made by relic.
2)Its something entirely different.

You want to jerk off to swastikas and ss symbols, make yourself a mod.
27 Nov 2014, 19:40 PM
#15
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

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Please tell me this is a troll thread.....guys?
27 Nov 2014, 19:40 PM
#16
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

But hey! Since an Hammer and Sickle is not "offensive" why not add all the symbols i guess. just my opinion

It's western bias imo. Nazi Germany rose in West Europe, and it conquered West Europe, and it committed atrocities in West Europe. The West was severely affected and was afraid of it ever happening again. As for the Soviets, they rose in the East, conquered the East, and committed atrocities in the East. But since it was in the East and they were on our side in the war, we don't consider them to be as bad. It's also the fact that Germany's atrocities were brutal ethnic cleansing, while Russia's were based more on corruption and political repression, and we consider murder based on heritage slightly worse than other forms.

I wouldn't mind mods that add Swastikas, but I think Relic as a company should keep their distance.
27 Nov 2014, 19:43 PM
#17
avatar of SS Panzer Division

Posts: 23

jump backJump back to quoted post27 Nov 2014, 19:18 PMluvnest
I'm not suprised when I take a look at your nickname.

Proper uniforms and such is cool with me, symbols and everything else is fine as it is.


I am simply looking for feed-back on this idea. I'm not trying to set it in stone. That is why I came here to see what other peoples views are on this. I mean no disrespect to anyone or any country.

to your first comment: My name here is this due to the fact I started play as the Germans. My name in game changes from which side I play as. I always use a realistic division for Russia, Germany and the Americans. My virtual name online does not describe me as a person. I am not a nazi. I am Canadian and when it comes to the troops who lost their lives fighting against them my heart will always go out to them.


I see you are from German and I am sorry if I have offended you in some way.
27 Nov 2014, 19:55 PM
#18
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

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I am simply looking for feed-back on this idea. I'm not trying to set it in stone. That is why I came here to see what other peoples views are on this. I mean no disrespect to anyone or any country.

to your first comment: My name here is this due to the fact I started play as the Germans. My name in game changes from which side I play as. I always use a realistic division for Russia, Germany and the Americans. My virtual name online does not describe me as a person. I am not a nazi. I am Canadian and when it comes to the troops who lost their lives fighting against them my heart will always go out to them.


I see you are from German and I am sorry if I have offended you in some way.

swastikas are never going to be added, get over it.
27 Nov 2014, 19:58 PM
#19
avatar of sneakking

Posts: 655

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SS Panzer Division, such original name, never seen anyone in CoH2 automatch with anything similar before :snfBarton:
27 Nov 2014, 20:00 PM
#20
avatar of Neffarion

Posts: 461 | Subs: 1



I am simply looking for feed-back on this idea. I'm not trying to set it in stone. That is why I came here to see what other peoples views are on this. I mean no disrespect to anyone or any country.

to your first comment: My name here is this due to the fact I started play as the Germans. My name in game changes from which side I play as. I always use a realistic division for Russia, Germany and the Americans. My virtual name online does not describe me as a person. I am not a nazi. I am Canadian and when it comes to the troops who lost their lives fighting against them my heart will always go out to them.


I see you are from German and I am sorry if I have offended you in some way.


Just wait for a mod, someone eventually will do it and you can use it
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