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Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 07:33 AM Jump back to quoted post20 May 2021, 07:30 AMKatitof By that logic Valentine is a heavy tank, while Churchills are class fluid, depending on what's mounted on them and KV-1 are meds.... There is classification by role and by weight. By weight, panther is a heavy in the eyes of everyone but germans. well, S-tank is MBT or TD ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 07:28 AM Jump back to quoted post20 May 2021, 07:24 AMVipper No it does not much sense, using a weight classification to avoid answering a questions does not make sense. Regardless of everything else Panther in game is vehicle designed to counter other vehicles and thus has the role of a TD. So the questions still stands which unit feels the role of a TD better? I afair Jdpz4 is the best TD for axis. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 07:25 AM Jump back to quoted post20 May 2021, 07:14 AMKatitof If you refer to post 215, that's not what he said. And he is right. Talking weight, Panther and IS-2 are about equal. It was classified as heavy by literally everyone except megalomaniac germans. Weight is not a real thing to make tank become heavy or medium, but the design.... For example M26 is heavy tank in WW2 but medium in Korean war. As if M26 should become Medium, it would not be limmited to heavy tank price tag nor limited to 1 !. Not to mention, alies TD should get back their vet pen because they already fight against non doc heavy tank or even worst case fight against KT,Tiger 1 and Panther as same time. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 07:07 AM Jump back to quoted post20 May 2021, 07:04 AMKatitof For the same reason Churchill/KV-1 does not have 260 penetration. as Sander repply " high amor, hp and heavy crush = heavy tank " In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 07:04 AM 1/ like i said, 960 hp, heavy crush bla bla do not make panther become HEAVY TANK but how their design potray. Germnan design them as medium tank with high amount of armor to penratration Soviet deep defendline + try to win on Manpower war against Soviet. thing is simple, Panther win alies general tank by its high HP, armor, speed, good gun in the form of medium tank. If you say Panther is heavy tank, then by that logic Axis is on the edge because they not only has Heavy tank non doc but also heavy tank on doc. Oh wait, OKW has 2 non doc heavy. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 06:38 AM Jump back to quoted post20 May 2021, 04:17 AMDescolata The Panther is a heavy tank, not a premium medium. Max health on a premium medium is 800. Panther has 960, same as the KV-1 or Pershing. As such, being good at AT and alright at AI is common. She's not a TD. then complain to Relic about how panther is med or heavy: - "Germany's premier medium tank, the Panther has great frontal protection but weaker side and rear armor. The deadly KwK 42 75mm main gun provides excellent armor penetration. Effective against all armored vehicles. Weak to infantry anti-tank." Also here is Relic orgin description about M26: - " Better protected and better armed than the M4 Sherman, the M26 Pershing Heavy Tank is armed with a powerful 90mm main gun. The Pershing is considered to be on equal terms with the Panther, making it a powerful vehicle feared by many. Effective against all armored vehicles. Weak to infantry anti-tank." - Right now, how is "equal terms with the panther" from M26 ? and now why we made " M26 suppose to lose to Tiger, panther" stands higher than Relic design ? - powerful vehicle feared by many they said In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback20 May 2021, 01:52 AM digging skills from USF compaign and give them to Ranger In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?20 May 2021, 01:35 AM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2021, 11:30 AMVipper If in your opinion I have misrepresented in any pls explain which "People are too stupid". Pls explain in your opinion which TD is better Panther or JPIV. Because so far according to you Panther is easier to use and can do more while JP need to be fully supported. And since this is about Pershing, Panther is better at dealing with Pershing. As for your suggestion for M26 to have a crew that is not going to happen because it would be exploited to by the limit of 1. please, Panther is not a classical TD like Jpz4. It is prem-medium tank or high weight medium that forcus on AT department. Because panther nature, He can stand alone with EVERY ALIES GENARAL TANKs and Inf ( with pintle MG). Is that make sense to you ? - The idea of An exclusive Crews for M26 ( joke on you, I wrote "Pattton crew" for a reason) come from COH1 mod ( some COH2 mod have it too, I guess). M26 have a carry slot ( only carry 3 model) that carry Exclusive crew and major. that Crew take same popcap as major when pop out tank. + When M26 carry them, he had 100% performance and a new ability( maybe "on me" or break retreat skill on Campagin),small aura. If they get out then M26 performance will drop to 65-70% ( only driver and gunner stay in while tank commander, radio mand and loader get out) very logical indeed. + Vet 0 will have repair speed of RE vet 0, repair of vet 3 is same as Tankcrew vet 2 and unlock critical repair at vet 2 but faster active time than normal crew. You can put passive sprint and combat stats on vet 1 in case of losing M26 so that they are still useful on battle field. + Major can jump in too, give M26 ability to call IR pathfinder arty strike style (only 2 fast 155/240mm shell for 65 ammu, global cooldown with major arty barrage ), smoke nades ( less smoke shell than normal M4) and "On Me" ability. - This idea can make M26 more unility, flexibale, mobility for it cost wihout giving any raw stat buff to acchive the goal "M26 suppose to lose to tiger". It also fix the cheese " jump out Jump in " USF and repair problem (so it can stay at 960hp/270 armor). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?19 May 2021, 08:58 AM Jump back to quoted post19 May 2021, 08:09 AMVipper Can we pls stop insulting players. The theory that anyone and everyone who plays OKW is "too stupid" is not really realistic or even helpful. It also indicates that the person who repeats has not single game as OKW. dont push words into my mouth. thanks using panther is easier than Jpz4 due to the nature of those tank. Panther can easilly shut down Alies genaral tanks alone so OKW or even Weh can pay mirco tax to another unit. Panther can do more than rather than anti tank duty too. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pershing vs Tiger. Shouldn't Pershing be buffed?19 May 2021, 02:24 AM To someone wonder why ppl complain about underpower M26 every patch ?. because USF already limmited their playsyle. Ez8, M26 have no place right now. You could bring USF winrate to defend it. But please look carefully. their pick rate/ match rate is lower and yet top 200 players can carry more (poor UKF). Thing completely change on 2v2 where you cant end game around 20 minute mark like 1v1. 2v2 show up every thing about faction, con and pos. ML4 ML5 is a big example, you go USF, you dont pick M26, ez8 unless you far better than enemies. In: COH2 Balance