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SOV - Early 2018 1v1 tournament meta

27 Jun 2018, 09:31 AM
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Ok, here we go with the SOV meta from SMC and SCC5 tournaments; there were 75 games with SOV participation.

More on the background and the OH meta is here.
Breakdown for OKW is here.
USF data is here.
Finally, the UKF units can be found here.

Players were:










gamesPlayers
16
Talisman
11
VonAsten
10
VonIvan
5
Fortune, Siddolio
4
EmpiresCorrupt, FaHu, ikab
3
RedxWings, oziligath
2
Unknown Legend
1
vasa1719, Isildur, Crazyman64335™, Noggano, |GB| The HS H[oo]ligan, ProdigY, Theodosios, Refero


Commander picks




Commanders in loadout




"Buildings"






unittotalgamesof
TM-35
393
63
Fuel Cache (SOV)
8
6




unittotalgamesof
ML-20 152mm Howitzer
3
2
Munitions Cache (UKF)
1
1


Infantry units










unittotalgamesof
Conscripts
271
72
Combat Engineers
70
46
M1910 Maxim
65
42
ZiS-3
48
32
Guards Rifle Infantry
47
30
Penal Battalion
30
14








unittotalgamesof
PM-41 82mm Mortar
16
12
HM-38 120mm Mortar
16
14
DShK 38 Heavy Machine Gun
15
7
Scout Sniper
12
11
Shock Troops
7
5
M-42 45mm AT Gun
3
3


Vehicles











unittotalgamesof
T-70
53
37
SU-76M
50
23
T-34/76
46
20
T-34/85
36
17
SU-85
14
12
M4C Sherman
14
3
M3A1 Light Scout Car
11
10









unittotalgamesof
BM-13 Katyusha
8
8
M5 Half-track
4
3
KV-1
4
2
KV-8
2
2
ISU-152 Heavy Assault Gun
2
1
IS-2 Heavy Tank
2
2
M5 Halftrack Assault Group
1
1


Teching choices






























T1 built 27%
30%
20%
15%
VonAsten (4), RedxWings (3), Talisman (3), ikab (3), Fortune (2), VonIvan (2), vasa1719 (1), Crazyman64335™ (1), Siddolio (1)
T2 built 73%
31%
22%
9%
Talisman (13), VonIvan (8), VonAsten (8), Fortune (4), Siddolio (4), EmpiresCorrupt (3), oziligath (3), Unknown Legend (2), FaHu (2), and 8 others (1)
T3 built 91%
24%
24%
9%
Talisman (16), VonIvan (10), VonAsten (10), Fortune (5), Siddolio (5), RedxWings (3), EmpiresCorrupt (3), ikab (3), FaHu (2), oziligath (2), and 9 others (1)
T4 built 59%
32%
20%
11%
Talisman (16), VonAsten (9), VonIvan (5), Siddolio (4), Fortune (2), ikab (2), Isildur (1), Noggano (1), and 4 others (1)
T1 start 27%
30%
20%
15%
VonAsten (4), RedxWings (3), Talisman (3), ikab (3), Fortune (2), VonIvan (2), vasa1719 (1), Crazyman64335™ (1), Siddolio (1)
T2 start 69%
33%
21%
10%
Talisman (13), VonIvan (8), VonAsten (7), Siddolio (4), Fortune (3), EmpiresCorrupt (3), oziligath (3), Unknown Legend (2), FaHu (2), and 7 others (1)
Field Infirmary 92%
25%
23%
9%
Talisman (16), VonIvan (10), VonAsten (10), Fortune (5), Siddolio (5), FaHu (3), RedxWings (3), EmpiresCorrupt (3), ikab (3), oziligath (2), and 9 others (1)
Molotov Package 31%
17%
17%
9%
VonAsten (7), Siddolio (4), EmpiresCorrupt (3), VonIvan (2), FaHu (2), ikab (2), Crazyman64335™ (1), Unknown Legend (1), Talisman (1)
Anti-tank Grenade Package 55%
24%
20%
12%
VonAsten (8), VonIvan (8), Talisman (5), EmpiresCorrupt (4), FaHu (2), Siddolio (2), ikab (2), vasa1719 (1), and 9 others (1)


Build orders:

















































































1st unit2nd unit3rd unit4th unit5th unit
67
55
51
34
21 4 4 4 1
6
2 1 1 1 1
5
4 1
2
1 1
2
2
2
1 1
2
2
1 1
2
1
1
1
1
6
3
3
3
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
3
3
3
3
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
8
3
3
2
1 1
1
1
2
2
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1
1

27 Jun 2018, 09:51 AM
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1) Great recap
2) Who the hell built M-42 and why?!
27 Jun 2018, 09:57 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jun 2018, 09:51 AMKatitof
Who the hell built M-42 and why?!


Wanna guess? B-)


27 Jun 2018, 10:06 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jun 2018, 09:51 AMKatitof
why?!


Just checked the BOs: In all three games he went T1 and Penals, while the opponents were playing OKW and the M-42 was called in as reaction to a Flak-HT.
27 Jun 2018, 14:29 PM
#5
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Shock troops and M42 - just no words. How much was talk about they needed a buff. I remember someone who told me that Shock troops nerf was a buff.
27 Jun 2018, 15:11 PM
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Shock troops and M42 - just no words. How much was talk about they needed a buff. I remember someone who told me that Shock troops nerf was a buff.


Have a browse in the Pgren thread on the balance section, all those calls for pgrens to be buffed and how UP they are...

I would be curious to find out the number of pgrens or obers built in comparison to shocks.
27 Jun 2018, 15:57 PM
#7
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Who built the ISU-152 Heavy Assault Gun and why? Built 2 in one game?

PS: Amazing as always SiphonX.
27 Jun 2018, 16:03 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jun 2018, 15:57 PMRosbone
Who built the ISU-152 Heavy Assault Gun and why? Built 2 in one game?


Hooligan in a game vs. Frost's OH on Minsk Pocket (SCC5). One called in at 26:12, the other at 37:57
27 Jun 2018, 17:31 PM
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Hooligan in a game vs. Frost's OH on Minsk Pocket (SCC5). One called in at 26:12, the other at 37:57

:hyper: and i still lost do to my insane noob skills kappa

Also one of your stats is wrong, i built tier 2 twice in the first quali in gcs and im not stated there :P (not that its a big deal xD). Might be the dubbel game 1 of me vs devm that is confusing stuff.



Great stuff as always tho :D
27 Jun 2018, 17:34 PM
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And i'm so not suprised that talisman is leading the list with most soviet games hahaha, he is da ultimate soviet commander DA
Just tells his tovarisch troops that they need to rush b and he wins B-)
27 Jun 2018, 21:36 PM
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Also one of your stats is wrong, i built tier 2 twice in the first quali in gcs and im not stated there :P (not that its a big deal xD). Might be the dubbel game 1 of me vs devm that is confusing stuff.


Not sure what you mean... I never did GCS and I'm just about to do GCS2.

That said, as I allude to in the original newspost from WPC, I do have problems exactly pinpointing what was build because a) when a build was canceled, I don't know which one that was (I guess that is in the replay file, but vault doesn't unpack that) and b) you might tell your engineers to build something and then issue a move order after that (effectively canceling the build, but without an explicit cancel order in the replay file).

So, yeah, overall the numbers should be roundabout right, but details might be off...
27 Jun 2018, 21:42 PM
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When your listed as a tournament player, my job on this game is done Kappa.
28 Jun 2018, 12:51 PM
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I would be curious to find out the number of pgrens or obers built in comparison to shocks.


Well, you can check here for PGrens and here and Obers.
28 Jun 2018, 14:01 PM
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Not sure what you mean... I never did GCS and I'm just about to do GCS2.

That said, as I allude to in the original newspost from WPC, I do have problems exactly pinpointing what was build because a) when a build was canceled, I don't know which one that was (I guess that is in the replay file, but vault doesn't unpack that) and b) you might tell your engineers to build something and then issue a move order after that (effectively canceling the build, but without an explicit cancel order in the replay file).

So, yeah, overall the numbers should be roundabout right, but details might be off...

Oh i thought this was including gcs 2, my bad ^^
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