Remove faust from falls

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 02:47 AMBlebfeesh

I need my elite units to have no counters, and easily replace core infantry with no downsides

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 02:44 AMLoopDloop

pls

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 03:44 AMT.R. Stormjäger

The upgrade needs to be 3 FG42s, not 4. And their close dps needs to be slightly nerfed.

As for the faust, better than nothing I guess. Soviets are in dire need of a counter to Falls. Even shock gods melt.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 08:18 AMoootto92

Also remove guards grenade. Why can this top tier long range unit also beat units in the close range with this? It's like giving shocks a rifle grenade.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 08:19 AMKatitof

Damn man, you're going to lose your head if you'll hear about Obers and their 2 AI nades.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 08:18 AMoootto92

Also remove guards grenade. Why can this top tier long range unit also beat units in the close range with this? It's like giving shocks a rifle grenade.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 13:11 PMLago

I mean, you could easily remove that grenade and nobody would notice.

It's that shit.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 13:39 PMVipper

It is at the same level with Riflemen's and IS's greandes and superior to the one Panzerf have..

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 15:07 PMLago

Did they buff it? Because I swear it used to have the blast of a Grenadier's riflenade.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 15:07 PMLago

Did they buff it? Because I swear it used to have the blast of a Grenadier's riflenade.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 08:35 AMoootto92

Your head is going to explode when you hear that only one of those units is AI only, can be armed to work at medium range and the other also has light at and always upgrades with the same long range upgrade.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 16:18 PMBlebfeesh

Have you ever tried using guards? For them to be reliable in anyway costs 75 muni upfront. They only become truly annoying when they are defending at long to mid range. They lose to sturmpios even upgraded if they cant attack them on their charge. Meaning their "op" grenade is usually limited to them stopping a pgren from erasing them. They have a role as a good Jack of all trades unit with multiple counters. Falls do the jack of all trades thing better than guards do. They easily win against guards in a fight, and can still force armor to stay at a distance. why should an infantry unit's only counter be a katyusha.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 16:50 PMVipper

Guards used to be "Jack of all trades unit" currently they are the top of long range units.
Fall do not do better the Guards vs light vehicles/tanks they simply can cause engine damage.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2019, 17:08 PMBlebfeesh

Unless you are brain dead you arent going to charge a tank against a guard. That's how you lose it. The same is true against falls. A engine critted tank is a dead tank. A point blank buttoned tank is a dead tank. PTRses are good at scaring off LVs, but are not reliable ways to kill them. They end up being better AI than AT in the late game. I didnt choose to bring up guards. I dont claim they are UP. I don't want them to be unbeatable at every range. Their niche is long range, and they are extremely good at it. It just so happens that all allied infantry is up compared to falls. PTRSes are less scary as the game goes on while snares remain always relevant. Max range faust>max range button