Too much for one HMG (MG-42)
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However, someone used the incendiary rounds against an emplacement of mine and it shredded it in seconds.....is that intended?
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Saw a 42 take out a T-70 and an M5 in quick succession in a tournament the other night, think it might have been Dusty who is hardly a noob.
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Then we could add one model to grens. Good deal.
Uhh, what?
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You walk in to the firing arc of an HMG you get pinned instantly.
The HMG rotate to fire on you, you get suppress 1.5 sec then you get pinned.
Just my humble opinion.
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Uhh, what?
Hes saying that the 50 cal has 5 men supporting it so his argument is that if the its supposed to be as good or better than the mg42 then the 42 needs a 5 man squad as well... Hes completely ignoring that the American mg comes later AND costs more. When the mg42 moved from its cheap first tech building to a no tech t0 it got a price increase... Im curious as to how much the 50cal would be if relic did the same? 340? 300 at least but it doesn't preform as such.... Being the latest fielding machine gun and the least durable shouldn't it preform the best? Maybe like the old dshk? Or like the Vickers at least... But more pen
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But does that mean the MG42 should cost 280? Hue Hue
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So yes, should be at parity or more expensive.
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As I always say, main word in "Asymmetrical balance" is balance, not asymmetrical.
There was nothing wrong in 100% or 90% symmetry of some knid of units in vCoH. With same MGs for examples. MG-42 and US MG (0.50 maybe it was, don't remember right) were pretty same. So, it would not destroy that CoH if some units will be similar.
I don't like that idea of balancing MGs in game: "MG-42, 34 and all others will be deffenisve MGs, and all Soviet (both DShK and Maxim) will be offensive". Better make all MGs deffensive, like in vCoH, as they are supposued to be actually and make some doctrinal "offensive" MGs for those, who really needs them. I need MG as deffensive weapon for all factions, not only for axis.
And again about AP rounds - Wehrmacht don't need them! They have enough AT already, what for they need that one? USSR is that one, who needs AT rounds on MGs, because they don't have panzerschrecks, bazookas or PIATS. PTRS's are doctrinal only and they are way worse than usuall rocket launchers, so please, buff USSR's AT power against light vechiles rush. Without it USSR is veeery vunerable to 222 mass rushes or early Luchs raids.
idk. relic gives everything a purpose and doesnt back off of it easily.
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Hes saying that the 50 cal has 5 men supporting it so his argument is that if the its supposed to be as good or better than the mg42 then the 42 needs a 5 man squad as well... Hes completely ignoring that the American mg comes later AND costs more. When the mg42 moved from its cheap first tech building to a no tech t0 it got a price increase... Im curious as to how much the 50cal would be if relic did the same? 340? 300 at least but it doesn't preform as such.... Being the latest fielding machine gun and the least durable shouldn't it preform the best? Maybe like the old dshk? Or like the Vickers at least... But more pen
Does the .50 have increased received accuracy as well or is that just the AT/howitzer?
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" If you are loosing a light tank to the incendiary rounds it is completely on you."
Saw a 42 take out a T-70 and an M5 in quick succession in a tournament the other night, think it might have been Dusty who is hardly a noob.
Yup. Honestly if you have a gren screening and cripple the engine and load up your incendiary rounds it is often gone. Best I had was 2 AEC one hitting a mine and the other Fausted infront of two MG42s in separate buildings and dropped both in no time.
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@Spinflight; Stop baiting people with misinfo and lies.
The 42 is better than the vickers. It suppresses faster, there's no mg that puts squads down faster at the edge of its range than the 42, and that's the most valuable feature of hmgs. The vickers damages things faster and thet vet 1 range is nice, but the 42 is better at the main job.
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Does the .50 have increased received accuracy as well or is that just the AT/howitzer?
All support weapons have a +25% received accuracy but iirc the American crew weapons have (or had) a bug that they had a higher one or something like that but at any rate the 50 suffers from axis squads burst damage potential that comes from making sure that 6 man squads is balanced (higher per model dps) vs a 4 man weapon team that is literally a bullet magnet AMD suppresses as well as gasoline douses flames leads to a shite weapon... Thats also the latest arriving... And in an AT free tier....
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All support weapons have a +25% received accuracy but iirc the American crew weapons have (or had) a bug that they had a higher one or something like that but at any rate the 50 suffers from axis squads burst damage potential that comes from making sure that 6 man squads is balanced (higher per model dps) vs a 4 man weapon team that is literally a bullet magnet AMD suppresses as well as gasoline douses flames leads to a shite weapon... Thats also the latest arriving... And in an AT free tier....
Yup the bug was what I was asking about. I know about the normal +.25 but I wasn't sure if the bug applied to them. Honestly I never build the the 50 cal for the very reasons you stated. Fast steward is better against OKW and no one will back tech instead of going for early Sherman.
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The MG42 is fine, probably the best balanced MG of them all.
I'm with him, MG42 is fine, relic should balance all MG's like they did with the MG42. (For people that don't understand my point: They used their brains on this one, so a maxim should be a bit better balanced (not a wider arc).
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