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Strafe from germans is ridiculous

24 Jul 2013, 09:08 AM
#61
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Marxist logic= "make it useless"
24 Jul 2013, 17:59 PM
#62
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Watching the soviets squirm is hilarious though. Luftwaffffeelsss powaaaz!!!!! Pew pew pew.

But yes seriously it could use a nerf. I dont even feel good usng it. I try to only limit to one opell and 2 strafes a game. Abuse comes when sovs spam su85 and snipers.
24 Jul 2013, 19:09 PM
#63
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jul 2013, 09:08 AMNullist
Marxist logic= "make it useless"


Your reading comprehension = failing.
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#64
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Propaganda isn't useless... I think it's pretty damn good in fact. Probably shouldn't be 5 CP though.

Hmm, if you don't like propaganda not sure you're going to like the new strafe.
25 Jul 2013, 17:23 PM
#65
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Jul 2013, 07:48 AMMarxist
Make it as useless as Propaganda.


Lets make stuff useless!
As I said, Marxist logic.

And then he tell me its about reading comprehension...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fking internet these days.
25 Jul 2013, 17:41 PM
#66
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Propaganda's range should be a bit bigger imo. Also it comes out really late yeah
25 Jul 2013, 17:47 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Jul 2013, 17:23 PMNullist


Lets make stuff useless!
As I said, Marxist logic.

And then he tell me its about reading comprehension...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fking internet these days.


Here he is the CoH2.ORG JUDGE!!! Be afraid everybody and stfu
25 Jul 2013, 20:47 PM
#68
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Jul 2013, 17:23 PMNullist


Lets make stuff useless!
As I said, Marxist logic.

And then he tell me its about reading comprehension...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


I was being sardonic. So yes, let me tell you about reading comprehension and your lack of it!

jump backJump back to quoted post29 Jun 2013, 06:26 AMNullist
Raise muni cost.




Except that doesn't fix its brokeness. It would still be better than any Soviet strike even with increased cost.

Radius and duration are too long. It's too good at killing infantry despite the fact that it pins everything, including retreating units. I've had entire Guard squads killed by Strafe after retreating. Seen 6 man Zis guns decrewed since you can't actually get out of the radius fast enough.

Not to mention, a blob of PGrens can just waltz right in strafe radius and clean up everything while the Soviets are helplessly pinned.

At 3cp, the cost is about right. The ability itself just needs to be nerfed into the ground to be balanced properly.


Already posted my thoughts earlier in this thread on strafe. But it was extremely hilarious and predictable how your initial 'fix' to strafe was just to raise the muni cost. HAHAHAHA like that would fix it.
25 Jul 2013, 20:53 PM
#69
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Hmm, if you don't like propaganda not sure you're going to like the new strafe.


Sounds good.

26 Jul 2013, 21:40 PM
#70
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Propaganda isn't useless... I think it's pretty damn good in fact. Probably shouldn't be 5 CP though.

Hmm, on't like propaganda not sure you're going to like the new strafe.


Could u xplain to me how propaganda is supposed to work and what it does exactly please? Because it seems pretty useless to me. Most the time it completely misses but when it does hit it doesnt seem to do anything usually, is it bugged? I got one sqaud briefly suppressed once and once a long time ago it suppressed a unit and made one retreat.
26 Jul 2013, 21:45 PM
#71
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It pins all units in the rangr for 30 secs
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#72
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Propaganda pins, suppresses, or causes the squad to retreat.
26 Jul 2013, 22:48 PM
#73
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Propaganda pins, suppresses, or causes the squad to retreat.


I saw a squad retreat from one once. I had always thought the player did it, I had no idea that it was the ability itself.
26 Jul 2013, 23:41 PM
#74
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Propaganda pins, suppresses, or causes squad to retreat.


How does it decide which it does or is it random? And could u guys consider making it fall a bit faster or giving it a larger Radius as it is now its just simply too easy to dodge.
27 Jul 2013, 01:52 AM
#75
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Propaganda isn't useless... I think it's pretty damn good in fact. Probably shouldn't be 5 CP though.

Hmm, if you don't like propaganda not sure you're going to like the new strafe.


hum, then swap these two, I'm ok with that.
27 Jul 2013, 02:45 AM
#76
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I don't want strafe to be useless. It should be something that parallels the Soviet strafe.
27 Jul 2013, 03:48 AM
#77
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jul 2013, 02:45 AMhubewa
I don't want strafe to be useless. It should be something that parallels the Soviet strafe.


Unfortunately the soviet strafe is almost useless. Extremely easy to doge, costs a tonne of resources and does crap damage when it does hit unless the opponent is blobbing up so hard.
27 Jul 2013, 04:00 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post27 Jul 2013, 02:45 AMhubewa
I don't want strafe to be useless. It should be something that parallels the Soviet strafe.


Say no to mirrors matches! Different but balanced is what we want.
27 Jul 2013, 05:09 AM
#79
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Say no to mirrors matches! Different but balanced is what we want.


What the hell... I never said we have mirror matches...I said something that is similar to the Russian strafe is fine...
27 Jul 2013, 12:09 PM
#80
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I have used Propaganda exactly twice and had no idea what it was doing.

I don't think any competitive player wants an ability that randomly suppresses, pins or forces a retreat. Random effects = bad. We need to know exactly what it's going to do for planning. Same reason Off Map Combat Group wasn't exactly spammed in competitive games, as it was such a gamble. I dislike gambling and neither I nor the Women's Temperance, Knitting and Quilting Society approve of it in COH.

I wish it was just a "goodbye blob" ability like in COH...

Strafe serves that purpose well, currently. As it says "Goodbye entire Soviet army and please check in again after 5 minutes."

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