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21 Oct 2015, 19:41 PM
#121
avatar of Gluhoman

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To my mind it need hp buff or cost nerf.
21 Oct 2015, 19:42 PM
#122
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 19:38 PMBurts



Stop. The panther actual RoF is 7.5 seconds, due to the wind up time. Better armor? 20 more. Wow.

The pershing is an *excellent* tank for USF. Lets not forget the amazing piercing shot ability.

just hope they do something about the HP or armor cuz axis already have the edge on having a wide array of godlike AT weapons
21 Oct 2015, 19:44 PM
#123
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It will have more armor than a Tiger (so probably ~320) but 45 range.

I agree. Seems quite balanced.

I asked about range and Brad said 50
21 Oct 2015, 19:45 PM
#124
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 19:38 PMBurts



Stop. The panther actual RoF is 7.5 seconds, due to the wind up time. Better armor? 20 more. Wow.

The pershing is an *excellent* tank for USF. Lets not forget the amazing piercing shot ability.


Reload
Duration multi far:
1.0
Duration multi near:
1.0
Duration min:
6.1
Duration max:
6.4
Frequency min:
0.0
Frequency max:
0.

http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/panther_kwk42_75mm_mp

unless i missed something and you like to point it out

also ask the tiger how well it bounces shots like the panther
21 Oct 2015, 19:51 PM
#125
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Reload
Duration multi far:
1.0
Duration multi near:
1.0
Duration min:
6.1
Duration max:
6.4
Frequency min:
0.0
Frequency max:
0.

http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/panther_kwk42_75mm_mp

unless i missed something and you like to point it out


You missed the wind-down which happens before the reload takes place.

It's 1 second for the Ostheer Panther so not including aim times:

1 Wind down + 5.8-6.7 Reload = 6.8-7.7 Time before it can fire after firing

OKW Panther
1 wind down + 6.1-6.4 = 7.1-7.4 Time before it can fire after firing
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#126
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Those stats aren't finalize as we are still doing internal tuning on them. But they will be in the ball park
21 Oct 2015, 19:52 PM
#127
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Posts: 732

Why is Pershing turret rotation like twice as fast as vet3 Tiger? It gonna be really simple to destroy all tanks in game with this insane turret rotation and accuracy.

Potent gun, fair enough. but the turret rotation that is that fast on a heavy tank :foreveralone:
21 Oct 2015, 19:55 PM
#128
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They withhold Pershing --> People whine

They have Pershing in game files --> People whine

They introduce Pershing and Rangers in one doctrine --> People whine

They show stats of the Pershing, which isn't the wonder weapon Allied players have been hoping for, yet still far better than any tank the USF can field now --> People still whine

You people make no sense to me


21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#129
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just hope they do something about the HP or armor cuz axis already have the edge on having a wide array of godlike AT weapons


6 pounder is pak 40 clone with 50% increased accuracy vs vehicles out of the box.

We understand, via your name, that you probably play nothing but USF, but please be reasonable for once :foreveralone:
21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#130
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Posts: 758

jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 19:52 PMbC_
Those stats aren't finalize as we are still doing internal tuning on them. But they will be in the ball park

lol here's hoping the pershing's health or armor gets boost up cuz most of their non-doc tanks are paper when going up against the better axis AT or armor
21 Oct 2015, 19:57 PM
#131
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

Well I'm plenty excited. This is all i could have ever asked for from an american heavy. You guys are way too focused on heavy vs heavy fights, like it matters. 1v1 heavy fights with 0 support are rare.

Benefits of the Pershing:

1. Can turn to fight really fast, and will be very hard to flank
2. 50 range means you out-range every other heavy at low vet.
3. Mobility lets you avoid AT guns easier
4. Combined Arms lets you self spot and out-range everything except TDs
5. Smoke can be called in anywhere to cover it from AT

With all this I don't give a shit if it can 1v1 a Tiger. Lower health doesn't mean shit if they can't actually hit you.
21 Oct 2015, 19:59 PM
#132
avatar of Fusionhero

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Why is Pershing turret rotation like twice as fast as vet3 Tiger? It gonna be really simple to destroy all tanks in game with this insane turret rotation and accuracy.

Potent gun, fair enough. but the turret rotation that is that fast on a heavy tank :foreveralone:


Lets also talk about the speed from the persing itself :foreveralone:
21 Oct 2015, 19:59 PM
#133
avatar of The Big Red 1

Posts: 758



6 pounder is pak 40 clone with 50% increased accuracy vs vehicles out of the box.

We understand, via your name, that you probably play nothing but USF, but please be reasonable for once :foreveralone:

i would be if USF had some decent AT options which at the moment they don't
21 Oct 2015, 20:01 PM
#134
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They withhold Pershing --> People whine

They have Pershing in game files --> People whine

They introduce Pershing and Rangers in one doctrine --> People whine

They show stats of the Pershing, which isn't the wonder weapon Allied players have been hoping for, yet still far better than any tank the USF can field now --> People still whine

You people make no sense to me




love that pershing isnt just copied is 2.

hyped.
21 Oct 2015, 20:16 PM
#135
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i would be if USF had some decent AT options which at the moment they don't


There you go, you are reasonable. Yet in your earlier comment, you went straight up goo goo and claimed that only Axis factions have good AT, which is rather ignorance, since the 6 pounder is just as good if not better than the pak 40.
21 Oct 2015, 20:22 PM
#136
avatar of The Big Red 1

Posts: 758



There you go, you are reasonable. Yet in your earlier comment, you went straight up goo goo and claimed that only Axis factions have good AT, which is rather ignorance, since the 6 pounder is just as good if not better than the pak 40.

why dont they just buff the 57mm to pak 40/QF 6 Pdr standards maybe then i would start using it more so often than the Jackson
21 Oct 2015, 20:26 PM
#137
avatar of IGOR

Posts: 228

come on relic , 800 hp and less armor than a panther :foreveralone:
21 Oct 2015, 20:27 PM
#138
21 Oct 2015, 20:31 PM
#139
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why dont they just buff the 57mm to pak 40/QF 6 Pdr standards maybe then i would start using it more so often than the Jackson


Still circling around facts huh, well so be it.
21 Oct 2015, 20:36 PM
#140
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392



You missed the wind-down which happens before the reload takes place.

It's 1 second for the Ostheer Panther so not including aim times:

1 Wind down + 5.8-6.7 Reload = 6.8-7.7 Time before it can fire after firing

OKW Panther
1 wind down + 6.1-6.4 = 7.1-7.4 Time before it can fire after firing

understood thank you
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