Centaur
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Any medium tank that can park in front of an AT gun and decrew it sometimes without the gun firing a single shot is broken.
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The Ostwind is no where near as good. The Luch obviously is much cheaper but even two luch's can't destroy infantry as fast as one Centaur. The DPS and accuracy is just insane.
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Considering Aimstrong is using Centaur spam for a one-way ticket to being the champion of OCF, wrecking top players with no variation in his strat except "rush centaur" ...Yeah. Nerf it hard.
Having watched a few streams vs him, people only seem to build a Pak when the Centaur comes out, not preparing for it. Its pretty clear he will build it. Also some cleverly placed tellers with a bait might be possible. A JP4 built in time will also kill it pretty easily.
I'm not saying that it doesn't need adjusting but people cant expect to counter it without bothering to prepare for its arrival.
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Having watched a few streams vs him, people only seem to build a Pak when the Centaur comes out, not preparing for it. Its pretty clear he will build it. Also some cleverly placed tellers with a bait might be possible. A JP4 built in time will also kill it pretty easily.
I'm not saying that it doesn't need adjusting but people cant expect to counter it without bothering to prepare for its arrival.
In his game 2 vs. KoreanArmy, he not only lost his first centaur seconds after it arrives, but his second one in a similarly quick amount of time, yet for those few minutes they were on the map, they wiped so much infantry that it was unrecoverable. KA lost the game even though he dealt with those two Centaurs beautifully.
His opponents know how to deal with it. It deals too much irreversible damage, whether it's on the field for 10 minutes or 10 seconds.
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Don't know what you're talking about. He only lost the first one, he lost a Cromwell as well. His second and third ones survived till the end. That combined with the 4 AT guns he accumulated were enough to seal the win.
In his game 2 vs. KoreanArmy, he not only lost his first centaur seconds after it arrives, but his second one in a similarly quick amount of time, yet for those few minutes they were on the map, they wiped so much infantry that it was unrecoverable. KA lost the game even though he dealt with those two Centaurs beautifully.
His opponents know how to deal with it. It deals too much irreversible damage, whether it's on the field for 10 minutes or 10 seconds.
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really need a replay.
iirc centaur is 110 or 120 fuel so more expensive then the ostwind and better.
its 100 fuel. and 40mp more than the ostwind... Yet has 5x the performance.
Centaur needs a nerf rather badly. also a fix vs damage against garrisoned units (its like the bofors was currently).
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So the conclusion is pretty easy, quit crying and start your brain up, try to pull out some tactics instead of raging in Game chat and yelling relic and you furiously throw your monitor out the nearest window or attempt to shoot it with a Kar 98 or some other bullshit you find around by digging a hole in Europe. Sometimes being dynamic allows you to win, hell if someone can win games just by spamming the hell out the fucking Osttruppen force, you can think of something to beat a Centaur, unless you did everything in your power to fuck up your game. Then you can start crying, but at yourselves.
Edit: Oh yeah, Axis gets access to armour earlier than Brits, so it's even x2 your fault if you can't even deal with that.
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Centaur is fine but a Centaur supported by two 6 Pounder AT Guns is broken.
it's the only way to deal with okw blobs supported by armor ... since emplacements are useless now
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Or it needs to be revamped where its damage is much less but it deals suppression like the AAHTs (Quad, M15 AAHT, 251 Flak Track) rather than being an Ostwind on steroids.
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Don't know what you're talking about. He only lost the first one, he lost a Cromwell as well. His second and third ones survived till the end. That combined with the 4 AT guns he accumulated were enough to seal the win.
Gee, I wonder how he accrued so many AT guns
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Edit: Oh yeah, Axis gets access to armour earlier than Brits, so it's even x2 your fault if you can't even deal with that.
30 + 115 - (20) = 125 in tech. (They start with 20?)
100 for the Centaur / 110 for Cromwell
15/15/25 Upgrades (Nade/Rack/Bolster)
OH:
170f in tech (accounting for initial fuel)
100 for Ostwind / 125f PIV
it cannot penetrate a P IV or a Ostwind frontally, which means one of those two screws it up pretty easily,
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From 80-85% to 35-40%. Frontal shots mostly (some Rear due to how side armor works)
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Even if they want to keep the anti inf performance as it is, atleast give it some damage reduction vs paks.
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