Soviet T3 need cost increase or Ost T3 cost reduction!

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:28 PMleungkevin24

early t70s are cancer

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:25 PM__deleted__

Ah, the mythical creature, the "German" player, and his sinister machinations!
Couple of points: Fanboys and monofaction (or predominantly one faction) players exist, especially on these forums, but most "German" players are US players are Soviet players, and their interest is a balanced game. I have used Quads all morning, they come at 3 cps and are vastly too strong for cost/time of arrival. Back it up with an Su-76, and even a PIV need not worry you. Other people have predicted that beforehand in this very thread, so its not original on my part if I postulate that the meta in this patch will be centered around this unit combination.

By the way, over the last few patches with the Guard Motor meta, Soviets have been the strongest faction in 1s, as evidenced by statistics and tournaments. Their contender for that spot has been OH, no wait, OKW, no wait, actually US.
This will eventually change, as it always does as long as this game remains patched and supported, there have been long stretches of Ostheer being broken OP, but recently this has never been the case.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 14:29 PMIron Emperor

T-70 is not that frequently builded but that goddamn M5 man o man, shut everything down.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 22:20 PMelchino7

Cause it is a higher risk, high reward unit which requires more micro. Fuelwise, it's way less risky to go for the M5. Also, it deals with (shrecks) blobs while the T70 requires constant kitting.

If M5 upgrade wasn't an "issue", people would complain about T70 or even clowncar M5.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 09:26 AMpugzii

Lol. I don't really play soviets but I swear some of you are just so stupid.

Ost t3 != Soviet t3. Soviet t3 is now light vehicles, where-as Ost t3 is unchanged with a great medium tank and now very powerful stug (underpriced).

You cannot have Ost t3 priced similarly to soviet t3. Just L2P and be prepared for it and get a pak a minute faster than normal... or adapt and get 2x ac's if your that worried. I have had no issues dealing with it in the mod patch, it just needs preparation similarly to how you need to prepare for potencial Flak HT/Puma/Luchs rush as allies.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:01 PMFiresparks

Matching the soviet light armor against the ost mechanized is just going to end poorly for the german.

The su76 and the stuart were recently buffed to make them decent even in the face of pziv or panther. Ironically the recent teching buff for the allies might necessitate nerfing the stuart and su-76 back to the previous level.

I don't like the recent teching changes to the ost, usf, sov at all. It tried to extend the light tank phase of the tank when the ost have no light armor at all. Not to mention the Allies and OKW light armor were slowly moving toward a state where they would remain useful even into late game.

It feels like the tech changes were designed and implemented without taking into account the recent buff to USF and Sov light tanks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:01 PMFiresparks

The su76 and the stuart were recently buffed to make them decent even in the face of pziv or panther.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:12 PMJorad

Wait hold your horses! Stuart is not capable of destroying a PIV or Panther.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:20 PMFiresparks

the stun round allow the stuart to escape from a pziv or panther.
I'm not sure what the "blind" effect do precisely, but blinded tanks seems to be unable to fire.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:25 PMKatitof

No, it doesn't. For stun to take effect it needs to penetrate. It won't pen front of P4 and definitely not panthers. Blind last really short and won't even slow down the chase, you can still shoot with attack ground, unless you have wall of AT behind the corner, you're going to lose that Stuart.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:32 PMKatitof

My mistake then. (see alex? if you're proven wrong you don't drag it until one you argue with pukes with your bs, but admit it and move on)

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:49 PMAlexzandvar

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Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 12:49 PMAlexzandvar

can you not sleep at night without thinking about me? it's kinda hot tbh