I don't get why every mortar dies when having 1 man left, but the best non HT mortar in the game can get away with it and even has a 6 man squad. You know how hard it is to kill this thing?
If I somehow manage to do so, the 120mm is gold in my eyes. I would even savrifice a gren squad with only 3 men left to get this thing.
Relic, you gonna fix 120mm, or not?
26 Apr 2015, 16:02 PM
#141
Posts: 1740
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
26 Apr 2015, 16:38 PM
#142
Posts: 1705
I once stole a 120 mm from sov guy.Put it near OKW base for cover under a mg.
USF teammate of soviet was cursing him throughout as his rifles started feeling the heat.
But thats abt it,ur NEVER going to steal it more or less against a serious opponent.Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper.
USF teammate of soviet was cursing him throughout as his rifles started feeling the heat.
But thats abt it,ur NEVER going to steal it more or less against a serious opponent.Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper.
26 Apr 2015, 17:02 PM
#143
Posts: 2779
I don't get why every mortar dies when having 1 man left, but the best non HT mortar in the game can get away with it and even has a 6 man squad. You know how hard it is to kill this thing?
If I somehow manage to do so, the 120mm is gold in my eyes. I would even savrifice a gren squad with only 3 men left to get this thing.
Exactly.
26 Apr 2015, 17:06 PM
#144
Posts: 71
Huge range,6men,runs away at 1 men.Another soviet cheese iwiper.
What kills me about that thing is the retreat speed and movement speed. Didn't it weigh like 600 pounds (all in) with 35 pound rounds?
How can the retreating squad outrun a Gren squad? It should move much slower.
It's high reward but it has to be higher risk - and the unit should be left if 4 models die.
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okw
26 Apr 2015, 18:52 PM
#145
Posts: 17889 | Subs: 8
What kills me about that thing is the retreat speed and movement speed. Didn't it weigh like 600 pounds (all in) with 35 pound rounds?
How can the retreating squad outrun a Gren squad? It should move much slower.
It's high reward but it has to be higher risk - and the unit should be left if 4 models die.
I can push a car that weight 500-600 KG easily.
Running with full barrow also isn't something impossible for average joe.
Wheel is such a great invention.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Apr 2015, 20:26 PM
#146
Posts: 3552 | Subs: 2
Wheels are OP
This is why the Maxim is better than the MG42
This is why Kubelwagens and WC51s are so good
Relic are wheel fan boys
This is why the Maxim is better than the MG42
This is why Kubelwagens and WC51s are so good
Relic are wheel fan boys
Resident Soviet Whiner and Grand Master Bias Jedi; General Secretary of the Soviet Whine Hydra Collective; Axis Hating Sheeple; Allied Butt Buddy! Collect Them All!
Also the African Branch of TAB Bulletins
PS: The Italian Army fought with courage and skill
Also the African Branch of TAB Bulletins
PS: The Italian Army fought with courage and skill
26 Apr 2015, 20:30 PM
#147
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
I can push a car that weight 500-600 KG easily.
Running with full barrow also isn't something impossible for average joe.
Wheel is such a great invention.
lol do you seriously think pounds = kg
26 Apr 2015, 20:39 PM
#148
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lol do you seriously think pounds = kg
Pound is a unit of weight.
Kg is a unit of weight.
Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.
Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.
You are a moron.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Apr 2015, 21:53 PM
#149
Posts: 1144 | Subs: 7
I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T
26 Apr 2015, 23:06 PM
#150
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
Pound is a unit of weight.
Kg is a unit of weight.
Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.
Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.
You are a moron.
How does this have any baring on what I said.
26 Apr 2015, 23:14 PM
#151
Posts: 17889 | Subs: 8
How does this have any baring on what I said.
Since we're talking weight here, I'd say what you say have none of it.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
26 Apr 2015, 23:34 PM
#152
Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1
I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T
Now this is a post, not people arguing about weight measurement units. I don't think relic changes precision strike, and to be honest it's very dumb to give it to Soviets because Axis units already have fewer models. If these changes are to be made, it's gonna need price reduction, like 340 or something.
26 Apr 2015, 23:56 PM
#153
Posts: 1026
Pound is a unit of weight.
Kg is a unit of weight.
Both are used to describe the same thing, except one is internationally unified unit and other one is 'MURIKA FUCK YEAH! because fuck the world.
Pound to kg relation is 2 to 1.
You are a moron.
They're units of mass actually. Weight is measured in Newtons.
27 Apr 2015, 00:11 AM
#154
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
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Now this is a post, not people arguing about weight measurement units. I don't think relic changes precision strike, and to be honest it's very dumb to give it to Soviets because Axis units already have fewer models. If these changes are to be made, it's gonna need price reduction, like 340 or something.
Mostly this I was going to add that I agree with Lemon completely, but the price should be lowered to around 360 manpower. Despite such nerfs 400 manpower would be to expensive. But it would still be very powerful and would still allow you to skip t2 so its pretty powerful in that regard. 360 manpower seems like a fair price.
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axis
27 Apr 2015, 01:23 AM
#155
Posts: 692
I can't remember the last time I had a vet 3 120mm, but I see vet 3 wehrmacht mortars in nearly every game
It's been nerfed enough. I have a hard time justifying nerfing this doctrinal unit (present on only one viable commander) when the wehrmacht have a mortar that literally has 3x the rate of fire, and OKW have the stuka, which deletes any garrisons and setup teams
I'm not really attached to precision strike, but if anyone has a better vet ability in mind that isn't on the level of loltripwires I'm all ears
It's been nerfed enough. I have a hard time justifying nerfing this doctrinal unit (present on only one viable commander) when the wehrmacht have a mortar that literally has 3x the rate of fire, and OKW have the stuka, which deletes any garrisons and setup teams
I'm not really attached to precision strike, but if anyone has a better vet ability in mind that isn't on the level of loltripwires I'm all ears
27 Apr 2015, 02:23 AM
#156
Posts: 959
I would just reduce damage from 100 to 80, required crew to 2, remove precision strike and add something new for all soviet artillery. Right now the 120 has the highest damage, longest range, best crew, very tight barrage, and decent accuracy out of all the mortars. T
I agree, that would be a great change to it.
27 Apr 2015, 02:24 AM
#157
Posts: 959
So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?
27 Apr 2015, 02:35 AM
#158
Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedSo, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?Pretty sure you can't
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axis
27 Apr 2015, 04:55 AM
#159
Posts: 1740
So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?
No, you need at least two men if you want to get it and at least 4 men to keep the other squad alive with 1 man left.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
27 Apr 2015, 06:31 AM
#160
Posts: 959
So, if it can get away with one man left, can you also recrew it with a one-man squad?
Then that just doesn't makes sense, and it's a BUG which needs to be fixed. There is no logic in that
No, you need at least two men if you want to get it and at least 4 men to keep the other squad alive with 1 man left.
Then that just doesn't makes sense, and it's a BUG which needs to be fixed. There is no logic in that
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