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31 Mar 2015, 02:40 AM
#201
avatar of ilGetUSomDay

Posts: 612

I am surprised that the SU 76 didn't get some love... :(


Why are you surprised? its only been well over a year :foreveralone:
31 Mar 2015, 02:44 AM
#203
avatar of ThoseDeafMutes

Posts: 1026

Honestly the biggest shock for me is that CAS doctrine didn't get nerfed.
31 Mar 2015, 02:50 AM
#205
avatar of The Silver Sage

Posts: 183



Except even if they preform the same or slightly better they are still 120 MP more expensive, when I'm getting a 4 men expensive unit that's easy to wipe I don't want to have to put up with it only being marginally better than base Rifles due to most engagements taking place at closer rangers. Not to mention the power of 1919 Rifles and 1919 Paras which wasn't touched at all.

OKW deserved to having it's ability to blob reduced, the sorry fact is Relic didn't apply the same logic to USF's blob capabilities.


How is 141% dps of rifles at close range [396 MP equivalent of rifles],
254% at mid range [711 MP of rifles],
441% at far range [1235 MP of rifles],
The same or slightly better? You can't have your cake and eat it, all weapons perform best at either short to long ranges.
The fact of the matter is rifles coming at obers in green cover will still be sent packing. You just can't attack move across a road anymore and expect to take no casualties with obers. You can't argue with those numbers God knows what they were before. So please that 280 MP squad is still no match 1v1.
31 Mar 2015, 03:12 AM
#212
avatar of wongtp

Posts: 647

still, quite disappointed in the ptrs changes. it is a shitty AT rifle but it has its uses with light armour and was never regarded to be used towards heavies, even with an accuracy boost.

what this unit needs is really ptrs holsters and extra 2x mosin for ptrs models. then it will be perfect, decent infantry dps and a great nade, excellent unit in cover, limited effectiveness against armour
31 Mar 2015, 03:14 AM
#213
avatar of AssaultPlazma

Posts: 300

wow so much dick stroking.......

Anyways guys about the KT armor nerf, I think that had more to do with KT simply just driving up and decrewing AT guns rather than so much as the jackson. Im sure by now most of you have seen THAT video.....
31 Mar 2015, 03:14 AM
#214
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

The people who are children are probably the ones who have been throwing temper tantrums asking for nerfs, and now that those nerfs have come they are just acting like a poorly disciplined child as to be expected.

So glad to see OKW getting reworked, so sad to see none of the same attention paid to making Ostheer teching no garbage, USF less retardly good early game, and Soviets are just kinda left out to dry with a marginal buff to the PTRS.
31 Mar 2015, 03:15 AM
#215
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

wow so much dick stroking.......

Anyways guys about the KT armor nerf, I think that had more to do with KT simply just driving up and decrewing AT guns rather than so much as the jackson. Im sure by now most of you have seen THAT video.....


Yeah the video were the dude is a total idiot and sits 5 ZiS guns stacked on top of each other so the KT can do AoE damage to them instead of moving to surround the disabled KT?
31 Mar 2015, 03:17 AM
#216
avatar of AssaultPlazma

Posts: 300



Yeah the video were the dude is a total idiot and sits 5 ZiS guns stacked on top of each other so the KT can do AoE damage to them instead of moving to surround the disabled KT?





you can clearly see it wiping them out individually, and no other tank in game can do that and frankly no tank SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIT IN FRONT 4 AT GUNS AND COME OUT WITH HALF HEALTH
31 Mar 2015, 03:21 AM
#217
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1






you can clearly see it wiping them out individually, and no other tank in game can do that and frankly no tank SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIT IN FRONT 4 AT GUNS AND COME OUT WITH HALF HEALTH


A large amount of the models are all standing on top of each other, meaning he was doing damage to several of the ZiS guns at the same time. If you stack a bunch of Volks on top of each other a single Sherman can fuck them up very fast. You can get the same effect with the IS2 versus Pak40's.

The key thing here is: Don't be a retard and refuse to move your AT guns to the sides of an enemy tank to his his weaker rear armor!
31 Mar 2015, 03:24 AM
#218
avatar of AssaultPlazma

Posts: 300



A large amount of the models are all standing on top of each other, meaning he was doing damage to several of the ZiS guns at the same time. If you stack a bunch of Volks on top of each other a single Sherman can fuck them up very fast. You can get the same effect with the IS2 versus Pak40's.

The key thing here is: Don't be a retard and refuse to move your AT guns to the sides of an enemy tank to his his weaker rear armor!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_turret

The Tiger II happens to have one...

as for IS-2 vs Pak40 load up cheat mod and see if you dont drive yourself crazy trying to recreate that....
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31 Mar 2015, 03:25 AM
#219
avatar of aaa

Posts: 1486

PTRS Accuracy increased from 0.03 / 0.0425 / 0.055 to 0.22 / 0.50 / 0.60


Didnt ever see ptrs missed a shot on vehicle. It has unsufficient dps on small tanks more likely than accuracy problems.

"Accuracy" increased tenfold.
31 Mar 2015, 03:28 AM
#220
avatar of WingZero

Posts: 1484



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_turret

The Tiger II happens to have one...

as for IS-2 vs Pak40 load up cheat mod and see if you dont drive yourself crazy trying to recreate that....


Alex will defend his Axis army no matter how retarded the facts are in front. Those AT guns exactly show how stupid KT is, glad to see it's armor nerfed! Glad to see you Axis fan boys cry since now Allies can penetrate those heavies.
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