The Tiger definitely needs a buff for cost. I would recommend a range buff.
No, it doesn't. It's fine as it is right now.
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The Tiger definitely needs a buff for cost. I would recommend a range buff.
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The Tiger definitely needs a buff for cost. I would recommend a range buff.
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To share my piece of experience (although I play compstomp mainly, therefore can't really comment on micro though)
If you want to thoroughly test the Tiger vs IS-2, then play the German Kharkov divide mission from the latest ToW on General, you'll face 2 unvetted and 2 vetted IS-2s. Played that about 3-4 times now (just for the bulletins) and never lost a Tiger to a IS-2 (if both were full health and the same vet lvl of course). In my opinion Tiger is ok as it is now, perhaps a tiny bit more of AT damage and bit better range at most. If I'm not mistaken Panther has somewhat higher penetration (and or AT damage?) due to its better gun but it's very very bad against infantry for that matter. I would choose the Tiger over the Panther any time.
About Brummbär, I think this unit is underestimated, it shreds enemy infantry, has decent armor, can take on a T-34/76, has crew shock... Yeah, its weaknesses are that it's a casemate tank and a long reload time, apart from that I think it's a fantastic AI tank
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Hoping for a big nerf soon for IS-2 that is?
IS-2 is realy weak? That tank can one-shoot your grens/pgrens, beat paks head-on, beat german t3, only thing it struggles is Tiger and well microed Panther.
Tiger is good AT and bad AI. SU85 outrange it, guards can button it, conscript can at nade it (since tiger AI is bad), t34 can ram it.
If i see 2 tigers I just get zis/su85 + guards/scripts for stun, if i see double IS-2 i go "O shit there goes my infantry".
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Tiger in beta(april) was the best ^^
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And not every doctrine have tiger and smoke, then again it lately got nerfed to 40muni with muni starved faction like ostheer u wont see it spamming both abilities at the same time.
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Tiger in beta(april) was the best ^^
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The only thing on the tiger that needs to be buffed is a slight speed increase.
It is sooooo slow its ridiculous like a lumbering whale wading through treacle.
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This thread is so fail. Everyone knows the tiger owns the Is-2 1vs1...other circumstances not withstanding. The Is-2 is godly as an all purpose tank, destroying infnatry so hard, but is usually easily countered by german heavies. If anything, I think the IS-2 needs a buff vs. the big cats headon.ITT OP bitches about a tank that is as slow as a Tiger, shots half as fast, does half as much damage to armor, and has the slowest turret speed of any unit. I wish they could ban people solely based upon their ineptitude.
AiR's Tiger Armee here vs. several IS-2s, note the vet 3 IS-2 was nearly helpless 1vs1 with a unvetteed and damaged tiger iirc. http://www.coh2.org/replays/12355/heavy-tank-battle-of-the-year-mvgame
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ITT OP bitches about a tank that is as slow as a Tiger, shots half as fast, does half as much damage to armor, and has the slowest turret speed of any unit. I wish they could ban people solely based upon their ineptitude.
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If anything, the Tiger needs to be more expensive.
AT guns are quite good right now, they have the highest penetration values of any weapon in the game and are fairly cheap in this patch.
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Just played a 3 v 3. We fielded 2 x IS-2 in the late game.
Enemy had some Panthers and a (sigh) Tiger Ace.
The first IS-2 got gibbed by a Teller / airstrike combo. It was literally screwed in five seconds. My IS-2 got hit by the Tiger and the Panther and was brewed up in a similar amount of time.
It was comedy gold for the Ost - 2 IS-2s destroyed in less than a minute.
The IS-2 isn't a win button. In fact, it's pretty situational and isn't a great 'breakthrough' tank in the way the Tiger can be.
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Youre insinuating the IS2 isnt as good as everyone says because it can be taken out by a teller and bombing strike? Thats totally irrelevant. I may damn well hope the other IS2 went down to a Tiger and Panther, if it didnt it would be ridiculous.
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