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Assult Granadiers No more Good!

13 Dec 2013, 15:22 PM
#1
avatar of infernoVenom

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Now its seems Assult Granadiers are as same as Conscript...

Even its harder to kill shock troop.

what do u think guys ?
13 Dec 2013, 15:25 PM
#2
avatar of c r u C e

Posts: 525

Uhm dude,AssaultGrens haven't been touched in this patch as far as I know...
Also AssGrens vs Shock Troops is like putting Conscripts vs PanzerGrens,which usually doesn't end well :)...
13 Dec 2013, 15:27 PM
#3
avatar of PaRaNo1a
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Now its seems Assult Granadiers are as same as Conscript...

Even its harder to kill shock troop.

what do u think guys ?


Did you just said Ass grens have hard time to beat shocktroops? What did you expect them to do for their price?
Also if you fail to beat cons in 1 1v1 situation try getting closer it might help o_O
13 Dec 2013, 15:33 PM
#4
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AssGrens haven't been changed.

But Sov can now pump Shocks out at CP1.

AssGrens still own the hell out of Cons though.
PPSH Cons fall just a little bit short if I understood the numbers correctly, but its a close enough difference that RNG can possibly swing it. Its not a sure thing, but its close enough to validate risking PPSH Cons vs AssGrens.

You can inform yourself about DPS stats and what outcomes to expect from engagements here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEpuSHcxNko1VGVFYjczYXpFZWhqOHc#gid=0
13 Dec 2013, 15:43 PM
#5
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Assgrens have always been shredded by shock troops
13 Dec 2013, 16:43 PM
#6
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 15:43 PMtuvok
Assgrens have always been shredded by shock troops


yeah +1

9 Assault grens vs. 6 shocks and I have lost, at least 6 assgrens and the opponent 4 shocks. And no... shocks are not "OP" I looove shocks :)
13 Dec 2013, 16:45 PM
#7
avatar of PaRaNo1a
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Why we bother with the OP? He is an Ostheer fanboi and plays only 4v4 anw =)
13 Dec 2013, 17:08 PM
#8
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Ass grens are only good for the first 2 mins of the game for that initial push, after that just move on to Pgrens
13 Dec 2013, 17:27 PM
#9
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Thats why i stick my first 2 cons together if i see someone with AssG. in his loadout. Just in case.
13 Dec 2013, 17:31 PM
#10
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Why we bother with the OP? He is an Ostheer fanboi and plays only 4v4 anw =)


Because its a legitimate question, no matter what kind of game he plays? ;)
13 Dec 2013, 17:38 PM
#11
avatar of PaRaNo1a
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Because its a legitimate question, no matter what kind of game he plays? ;)


Funny fact is that I heard that cons die faster after patch from VonIvan.
Ass Grens were not touched and I had no experience where my conscript won them 1v1 after patch. It will speed the process of helping the OP if he provided a replay or a screenshot n how he engages Conscripts
13 Dec 2013, 17:56 PM
#12
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Funny fact is that I heard that cons die faster after patch from VonIvan.
Ass Grens were not touched and I had no experience where my conscript won them 1v1 after patch. It will speed the process of helping the OP if he provided a replay or a screenshot n how he engages Conscripts


saying cons die faster is like saying assault grens got nerfed. nothing changed.
13 Dec 2013, 18:44 PM
#13
avatar of infernoVenom

Posts: 210

Thanks guys, for nice discussion. Really learned a lot.
13 Dec 2013, 18:57 PM
#14
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Dec 2013, 15:33 PMNullist
AssGrens haven't been changed.

But Sov can now pump Shocks out at CP1.

AssGrens still own the hell out of Cons though.
PPSH Cons fall just a little bit short if I understood the numbers correctly, but its a close enough difference that RNG can possibly swing it. Its not a sure thing, but its close enough to validate risking PPSH Cons vs AssGrens.

You can inform yourself about DPS stats and what outcomes to expect from engagements here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApmrrrPr20ncdEpuSHcxNko1VGVFYjczYXpFZWhqOHc#gid=0


Tnx, your link is very useful
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