Hey guys, so I've been using mortars quite a bit in 2v2s recently. I've used the Katyushas, 82mm mortars and 120mm mortars precision strike and each is incredibly effective at putting a shell (or trio of rockets) in one small area...but not the 120mm.
When I've used this with the 120mm it just hasn't seemed to work and has just shelled the local area as normal. The icon turned yellow, I can't account for whether the munitions went down; but when the shell landed it was the same amount of scatter as I'd expect to see after a normal barrage (which is understandably excessive).
Can anyone confirm whether this has happened to them or if I somehow managed to bugger it.
Thanks,
Jonky
120mm Mortar Precision Strike
27 Aug 2013, 22:49 PM
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27 Aug 2013, 23:30 PM
#2
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From the weapon stats hosted on http://coh2-stats.herokuapp.com/
the 120 mm mortar's precision barrage does 200 damage (normal 80) but seems to keep the same AoE stats. The scatter stats are very accurate (just as accurate as 82 mm mortar's precision barrage).
The 82 mm mortar's precision strike does 160 (80 normal) and also gets increased AoE stats (bigger explosion) to the same size as the 120 mm mortar's.
So the precision barrage is probably more of an upgrade for the 82 mm mortar but the 120 mm mortar keeps it huge range. Overall, both do a lot of damage. Of course this also increases their splash damage.
A direct hit with them will also pretty much one-shot a SdKfz 221/222 vet0/vet1 and heavily damage or finish a SdKfz 251 (240 health).
the 120 mm mortar's precision barrage does 200 damage (normal 80) but seems to keep the same AoE stats. The scatter stats are very accurate (just as accurate as 82 mm mortar's precision barrage).
The 82 mm mortar's precision strike does 160 (80 normal) and also gets increased AoE stats (bigger explosion) to the same size as the 120 mm mortar's.
So the precision barrage is probably more of an upgrade for the 82 mm mortar but the 120 mm mortar keeps it huge range. Overall, both do a lot of damage. Of course this also increases their splash damage.
A direct hit with them will also pretty much one-shot a SdKfz 221/222 vet0/vet1 and heavily damage or finish a SdKfz 251 (240 health).
28 Aug 2013, 00:02 AM
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I think what the OP is saying is that you pay through the nose for a precision strike on the 120mm and the shell often misses by a mile. I've personally had this happen at least 3 times. The other mortars precision strikes all land perfectly.
I suspect that through all the nerfing of the 120mm at some point something got nerfed that accidentally also affected the precision strike accuracy. Given the cost of the ability I'd like to see it fixed.
I suspect that through all the nerfing of the 120mm at some point something got nerfed that accidentally also affected the precision strike accuracy. Given the cost of the ability I'd like to see it fixed.
28 Aug 2013, 03:34 AM
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I think what the OP is saying is that you pay through the nose for a precision strike on the 120mm and the shell often misses by a mile. I've personally had this happen at least 3 times. The other mortars precision strikes all land perfectly.
Yeah, exactly that. It's a bit of a pain in the ass and it would be nice (though when I think about it rather brutal for the damage and AoE) for it to be fixed.
28 Aug 2013, 05:28 AM
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Same problem, I stopped using the precision strike on the 120mm mortar because its broken. It almost never hits precisely.
28 Aug 2013, 05:37 AM
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Permanently BannedDunno, maybe its to prevent it being a cheap, accurate and spammable Stuka bomb.
More likely some stat got messed up in the patching, which is unfortunately common from Relic (no offense intended).
More likely some stat got messed up in the patching, which is unfortunately common from Relic (no offense intended).
28 Aug 2013, 05:54 AM
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Just happened in a game I was playing. Put it right on top of a enemy mortar, but landed far to the right. Not really worth using a ability worth that much munis for something that MIGHT hit. Better off just barraging.
28 Aug 2013, 08:55 AM
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Hm... its maximum scatter distance is very low (2.5 metres/feet/whatever), much lower than their AoE radius, anyways. Did you shoot it into the fog of war? Doing so increases scatter by a lot.
However, I missed something yesterday: it really seems to have a higher scatter angle (12) when compared to the 82 mm (1.25). This should make it hit too far on the left or right so your observations may well be true. I'd expect it to still hit 2.5 m too far on the left/right... unless I misunderstood something about scatter.
So I guess if they'd adjust the angle it would get a lot more accurate.
However, I missed something yesterday: it really seems to have a higher scatter angle (12) when compared to the 82 mm (1.25). This should make it hit too far on the left or right so your observations may well be true. I'd expect it to still hit 2.5 m too far on the left/right... unless I misunderstood something about scatter.
So I guess if they'd adjust the angle it would get a lot more accurate.
28 Aug 2013, 10:11 AM
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Permanently Banned10 cookies says they forgot the decimal point.
28 Aug 2013, 14:11 PM
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152mm M-30 Soviet howitzer precision barrage also has 1.25 angle scatter, I'll ask Pqumsieh about it later.
28 Aug 2013, 20:06 PM
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Posts: 118
Thanks mate, let us all know!
8 Oct 2013, 23:31 PM
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Posts: 170
Pqumsieh stealth fixed this sometime ago. He forgot about it and subsequently it hasn't been logged.
Precision strike now has 2.5 distance scatter and 2.0 angle scatter.
Precision strike now has 2.5 distance scatter and 2.0 angle scatter.
9 Oct 2013, 04:55 AM
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Pqumsieh stealth fixed this sometime ago. He forgot about it and subsequently it hasn't been logged.
Precision strike now has 2.5 distance scatter and 2.0 angle scatter.
Thanks for the update. This is exciting, I will have to try it, but man how could they just forget reporting something like this, especially after breaking it by mistake it in the first place?
9 Oct 2013, 08:42 AM
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how could they just forget reporting something like this, especially after breaking it by mistake it in the first place?
maybe they fixed it by mistake
10 Oct 2013, 01:53 AM
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Posts: 170
Thanks for the update. This is exciting, I will have to try it, but man how could they just forget reporting something like this, especially after breaking it by mistake it in the first place?
Likely he fixed it when it was reported since its a simple fix; and then forgot that he did it.
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