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Counter to KT's?

30 Dec 2015, 17:28 PM
#1
avatar of ausownage

Posts: 117

How do you guys counter KTs?

Are AT guns effective at all?

Are Comets or Fireflies the better option (ofc fireflies are cheaper)?

Dare I ask... PIATS? I never use them. And never see good players use them in replays..... Hmmm

One KT is managable but sometimes in teamgames 2-3 can be overwhelming o.o

Prevention is the best method. Pressure them and knockout a truck so they won't be able to afford a KT.
30 Dec 2015, 17:34 PM
#2
avatar of Switzerland
Donator 33

Posts: 545

PIATs are countered by movement and tanks usually move pretty good.
30 Dec 2015, 17:55 PM
#3
avatar of Skabinsk

Posts: 238

As UK, two Fireflies are the true counter to axis armor.

NO LESS than two bc the fire rate is extremely horrible but with two of the you "double" the fire rate.

Plus if you have the ammo, X2 tulpe rockets will kill the KT in a manner of seconds.
30 Dec 2015, 17:59 PM
#4
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Piat blob is easiest way to counter kts, but you need vision. And for the love of god, equip them on engines and not on sections.

FF gets demolished by cp+stealth raketens.
30 Dec 2015, 18:18 PM
#5
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jump backJump back to quoted post30 Dec 2015, 17:59 PMJadame!
Piat blob is easiest way to counter kts, but you need vision. And for the love of god, equip them on engines and not on sections.

FF gets demolished by cp+stealth raketens.


You're joking right. Piat blob is not, stop trolling the thread. The KT will one shot your blob at range and you wont hit the KT it is it moving back and shooting your blob.

Two Fire flies are the only way with rockets. You're never sending in FF by themselves, you have IS or RE first and the FF at MAX distance to sniper German tanks.
30 Dec 2015, 19:18 PM
#6
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

You're joking right. Piat blob is not, stop trolling the thread. The KT will one shot your blob at range and you wont hit the KT it is it moving back and shooting your blob.


It outranges kt, it deals lots of damage (even 2 double-equipped engies), it always hits aganinst such fat-ass targets, and on top of that always penetrates. Cheap to reinforce as well. Piats literally strongest counter to kt in game, noob. Bad thing is infantry dies to 1 werfer barrage, so it hard to use them.

Two Fire flies are the only way with rockets. You're never sending in FF by themselves, you have IS or RE first and the FF at MAX distance to sniper German tanks.


Still hard countered by jp4+cp, and stealth raketens don't care about max distance simply because they are hidden, but, yeah, FFs is one of the most efficient things you can do with brts anyway. Comets not worth it and croms die too easy to mass them. Plus if you manage to one-shot his jp4 with rockets until it gains vet2, he is fucked.
30 Dec 2015, 19:19 PM
#7
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Posts: 830

Double 6 pounder with double Comet :foreveralone:
1 Jan 2016, 19:45 PM
#8
avatar of Beltet

Posts: 4

I always kill of with fireflies and tulips. Expensive as h*ll but very effective. Have had some success with piat blob as well but that's not fun gameplay.
1 Jan 2016, 21:43 PM
#9
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double AT gun and firefly with tulips can hardcounter it pretty well.


For AI purposes you can use churchills or cromwells or one centaur with :HANSrekt: vet 1 ability.


Also cromwell spam with 2 at guns work


Actually everything with double at guns if supproted well works because they have high pen and are simply great AT gun.


Piat blob i dont recomend in 1v1.


Use mines and brens. Brens to counter shreck blob and mines to engine damage tiger so cromwells can flank it or firefly with ttuplis and at guns can kill it from afar cause kingtiger cannot move well without engine.


Also cometter works because it is panther.
1 Jan 2016, 22:27 PM
#10
avatar of IGOR

Posts: 228

two comets with some AT behind! or brits arty cover + comet or cromwell
3 Jan 2016, 17:08 PM
#11
avatar of Virtual Boar

Posts: 196

Piats are pure rubbish, only use them if you are out of fuel or manpower for anything else.


Fireflies are the way to go, like it was said if enemy has fuel for KT, then you should be able to field 2 fireflies. Which is the optimal number.

Don't go for tulips its 50 muni upgrade plus 100 muni to fire every time, IMHO not worth the price, save it for something else. Get the commander upgrade though.

Let your tommies be infantry shredders with double brens, PIATS only use is to attack unmovable targets, like pillboxes and such.
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