Profile of Rosbone

Out of curiosity go to this folder on your PC:
MyDocuments\My Games\Company of Heroes 2\LogFiles

I always thought this folder only gets used by the worldbuilder, but I am seeing files piling up in there now from games.

I always deleted mine periodically but unless you are a mapper you may never do it. And it may have 1000's of files building up in there?

A new 3v3 map? POGGERS

3v3 really needs some new dedicated maps. Hope some players get together and check it out. Most 3v3 players are blobbers so hopefully it is large enough and not too "laney" for them.

Most agree Across the Rhine is pretty good starting point for size etc.

Do you guys ever look at the MAPS PLAYED stats? Here is a shot from The GrandMaster PageP.

PAGEP SITE


These move around a little week to week and usually AOD is 2nd most played map.

I think Fields of Winnie and Vaux Farmlands are the only one's that are decent

You clearly like large maps. This is a matter of taste. And that is why maps like these are included to give variety and try to cover all of the player styles.

Many people feel maps like these are a little too large. Forward retreats become OP. Any bad engagement means you are off the map for a long time, etc. But they do make MG play much less effective which can be a good thing.

Alliance of Defiance, Vaux Farm, Minsk Pocket, Crossing in the woods, and Elst Outskirts are BY FAR the top 5 maps in the game

In your opinion yes. Statistically, no.

HYPOCRITAL RESPONSE
I am the last person ever to ask people to qualify comments since I routinely call Relic morons But the reasons I do this takes walls of text that many have read too many times.

But when you make statements about maps, it is best to qualify your reasons. Saying good or bad is meaningless and does not help anyone. Unless it makes you feel better. Then I guess that is something.

-cheers


EDIT:

I think Fields of Winnie and Vaux Farmlands are the only one's that are decent

If you look at PagePs sight you will also see that Vaux appears to favor OKW and USF. Again, because MGs become weaker on large wide open maps. And overall these two maps seem to be the most imbalanced by faction.

I pretty much agree to all of this.

For clarity:

PERCENTAGES
I like to see percentages of rank because each faction has a different amount of players. 4v4 for instance USF usually has about 8k players but OST has about 14k players.

So a rank 7K USF player (87.5%(7/8)) is no where near as good as a 7K OST player (50%(7/14)).

The leaderboard LEVEL is a similar value to percentage but it breaks at rank 200 (LEVEL 16) for low player count modes like 4v4 teams. You are either a level 13 or 16. Level 14 and 15 do not exist.

ENTER AN ELO VALUE
The Duffman™ idea was for new teams. If the game sees you have zero games it can ask you what rank or percentage you would like to start as. If you are an SoE team you may enter a value of 10% (meaning top 10% of this game mode). Or even make it like 4 buttons Noob, Ez, Good, or God Mode. So you can get close to a good game much faster than smashing 5 noob teams before the server decides to give you a higher ranked game.

Of course it could also verify this value against your ranks in other modes so you dont have noobs trying to play against SoE.

Can Relic though?
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If you play at a slightly suboptimal time, I don't think there is much you can do against rank differences of 1000-ish.

I love your thinking here and I agree totally. Perfect matches are impossible. Thank you for taking the time to help the community.

The main issues with the MM are:
- ELO imbalanced.
- Premade teams needing to smash noobs before they get a rank.

ELO BALANCE
For ELO balance I like to think in terms of percentage of that factions ladder. That is why it is a thing in MakoCELO. In your example you are saying generically we would have a range for each team of approx 1k rank for a faction of 10k players (10% ladder range). What is a good cutoff for range?

I would like to see Relic implement some kind of new cutoffs.

• No match found if the range is too large (30%-40% maybe).
  
• No match found if all of one team is greater than the other teams best player. I constantly see games where team A is all top 15% and team B is all 50% with one player at 20%.
  
• No match found if ELO averages differ by more than 20%. We dont want three monkeys with one man vs four cro-magnons (see Aerafields MM image).
  

There are also some harder to fix issues like having one team all be a single faction against a mixed faction team. This is especially hard in 4v4 if the team is all OKW. But you end up with a team missing some valuable tools to deal with the well equipped enemy. Could maybe reduce the ELO average by 5% for single faction groupings. 2v2 and 3v3 are probably fine as is. 2v2 has less players and the 3v3 maps are usually large enough that it is almost a 1v1.

PREMADE TEAMS
Balancing this would take a little more code to get good. But something needs to be done to push premades to a higher ELO. A brand new team should not be considered as NO RANK.

The best case scenario would be to search each players best ranks in the closest matching game mode. For example a player is rank 15% in 3v3 OKW but 45% in other factions, that player is ranked at 15% to start. Even though the current game mode is 4v4. This will always be a problem since many team players actually have no ranks at all listed. But they have played some games so Relic must have their "hidden" ELO value stored somewhere.

Since premade teams are so much more effective, they should have their ELO pushed a little higher. For example a team of 4 players should be pushed 10% higher in ELO than their calculated value. Maybe go 5% for 3v3 and 0% for 2v2.

Best case scenario would be Relic gives an option for you to select a range of ELO when you start searching games (Duffman™). Since this would require the game EXE to be changed, this is too much to ask for Coh2 but could be implemented in Coh3.