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If meta will completely shift over to them, they'll be next.
However they do have very clear hardcounters from get go, so its a matter of quickly identifying them and then they can be rolled over.
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I have bad news for you if you play 1v1 mostly. OH right now is at it's strongest when you play whatever of the meta strats.
Enjoy Osttruppen/Assault Grens/5VSL at their peak.
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Posts: 772
Osttruppen currently arrive way to late and have too little utility.
Suggestions:
Reduce building time, they need about the same time as grenadiers
Osttruppen start with sandbags similar to conscripts
Osttruppen now get molotovs.
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you must be trolling. I can't believe that the guy with 10564 post posted this.
The delay had a clear intent to slow down very prevalent in 1v1 osttruppen strat without hard nerfing them. They are already cost efficient as is.
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Osttruppen start with sandbags similar to conscripts
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Pios already have sandbags and ostruppen have bunkers. Why do they also need sandbags?
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For the same reason conscripts do.
Posts: 563
That makes no sense at all. Soviets don't have bunkers, and CEs don't have sandbags. What on earth are you talking about
Ost doesn't need any help defending territory
Posts: 772
Ostruppen are nerfed too hard and are no longer relevant.
Building osttruppen give no speed benefit other than 40 manpower per squad time than in early game has very little impact and there is very little reason to use them.
The sandbags?
or
Molotovs?
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That was the whole idea, read patch notes. Again they are already very cost-efficient to justify building them. Yes, their dps is not excellent, but their whole point being a meat shield with fausts for support weapons. And it's not like the are trading with a deficit against other mainline like grens do.
Both especially molotovs.
Also there are two doctrine with ostruppen in the game and both allows for building of sandbags by infantry.
Posts: 1515
Have you tried them in the preview? Because they are not worth a ability slot.
Why?
Yes and thus moving them from CP 1 to CP 0 would be a minor buff that would make getting early osttruppen squad worth while, so I am not sure why you objecting to it.
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Yes and thus moving them from CP 1 to CP 0 would be a minor buff that would make getting early osttruppen squad worth while, so I am not sure why you objecting to it.
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Have you tried them in the preview? Because they are not worth a ability slot.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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With 16 reinforce cost, snare and LMG they are well worth the ability slot.
You not being able to use them does not mean they are useless.
Posts: 1515
You mean after BP3? still not worth it.
Have you ever used them? because according to you you play 3vs3 USF.
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Osttruppen currently arrive way to late and have too little utility.
Suggestions:
Reduce building time, they need about the same time as grenadiers
Osttruppen start with sandbags similar to conscripts
Osttruppen now get molotovs.
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In 5.0 the 25 second build time is the same as the call-in cooldown for Osstruppen in live(also same as Grenadier build time I believe). If you reduce it any then you undermine the whole point of moving them to T1. Even a slight reduction in build time would cancel out the build time of T1 and the 80 MP delay to the next Ostruppen built.
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