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Thread: COH3 Data and unit statsYesterday, 22:59 PM great job In: COH3 Central
Thread: COH3 Player Stats, leaderboards and more - coh3stats.comYesterday, 22:58 PM Well done In: COH3 Central
Thread: Is it impossible to consider another COH2 patch?13 Sep 2023, 09:39 AM Its not hard it is expensive, especially since COH patches have a tendency to of ninja changes that require hot fixes afterwards. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH3 Player Stats, leaderboards and more - coh3stats.com12 Sep 2023, 11:15 AM well done In: COH3 Central
Thread: Why listening to the community isn't always good.7 Sep 2023, 15:25 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Sep 2023, 14:53 PMHannibal I agree, the issue is: If it really would have taken that many resources, they should have realized at some point and cut down on that part. There were also a lot of things wrong at release and still are, there surely are deeper issues. Another problem for CoH2 was also that the newer factions were released OP. Probably by design to make people buy them. Obviously people don't like their new DLC that they paid for overly nerfed afterwards, so as you said the old factions had to change, throwing both the hypothesized overfitting off as well as the some of the factors that the game has been designed around. This will take more time overall than designing four factions from the get go. Especially since CoH2 did a repetition once UKF was released, resetting parts of the process. Yes you we agree. Only thing I want to point out is "the op on release/buy to win theory". In my opinion it is can be a an oversimplification in some cases. When a new item is released people need to play with it so that enough data is created to deiced what changes are need. Now lets say the miraculously on release is item is slightly up or op. After the initial hype where people will check out the new content people will realize that using the new item will cause them to lose games since they are not familiar with its full potential. Soon they will stop using preferring to go back to what they know. And that would mean that not enough data is created to help fix to problem. Having things being op at launch actually speed up the balancing processes so it makes sense. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Why listening to the community isn't always good.6 Sep 2023, 21:57 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2023, 17:12 PMDIRTY_FINISHER Ultimately relics fault yes. Does that make the people on the council blame free? No. Yes they are blame free. These people give up their time without any compensation in order to improve the game as they though best. Relic (and Sega) make decision for their product and they are the only ones responsible and the ones to blame. As they for the idea that Top players are the only ones that someone should ask about the game it is a flawed idea for a number of reason. Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2023, 14:04 PMDIRTY_FINISHER ...Especially since people that have no idea about gameplay or unit match ups were on it - AE was on it. Trying to create a relation of AE and the state of COH3 make little to no sense at all. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Why listening to the community isn't always good.5 Sep 2023, 18:14 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2023, 11:45 AMHannibal ... Balance was screwed and suddenly hard to tune because the first factions were meant to fight each other and none of the new factions. CoH3 balances each faction against two others from the start. This should hopefully reduce overfitting and allow easier introduction of new units and factions. ... Balance was screwed because Relic did a basic mistake. Instead of tuning the new faction to the old one they started tuning the old faction to new and that creates issues for a number of reasons. Firstly neither USF nor OKW where balanced when released and that trying to fix thing by making changes to Ostheer/Soviet was a fools errand. In addition "fixing" Soviet to fight okw and OStheer to fight USF meant destroying the balance between the two which Relic had spend so much to achieve. The end result was to completely redesign 3 factions and waster more time in trying balance things while not fixing simple things. Trying to release 4 faction at launch does take a lot of resources and might be a contributing reason why other things that should be easy fixes where not done upon release. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Why listening to the community isn't always good.1 Sep 2023, 10:16 AM Relic should listen to community it is something most companies do, but that does mean to listen to everything that the community says, there are good ideas and bad. Having 4 faction on release means a lot more workload and does complicates things balance wise. The solution to that problem, is to always have a benchmark and balance according to that. Having more 2 campaigns on release is less of an issue imo. In: COH3 Central
Thread: COH3 needs a redesign before it is dead21 Aug 2023, 10:06 AM Jump back to quoted post20 Aug 2023, 16:01 PMOrangePest ... What it does do well is something coh2 does not do at all, teching strategy, and doctrinal choices... I agree with that but I also have to point out that the tech changes making teching gradually cheaper and more linear contributed to it. In: COH3 Central
Thread: [Mod] M83 Mine Drop demo21 Aug 2023, 09:50 AM I find this mechanism more interesting than the current blow up stuff one. You might want to change the in game name of the ability though since "cluster bombs" seems confusing. In: COH2 Gameplay