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19 Nov 2020, 05:43 AM
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Muh Grens bad lmao

So many trash players have gone off the deep end. Imagine thinking LMG Grens are bad KEKW
19 Nov 2020, 08:46 AM
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Imagine thinking vanilla grens are good.
19 Nov 2020, 09:07 AM
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Imagine thinking grens are meant to be used without support teams, sniper or 251 behind them.
19 Nov 2020, 09:25 AM
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Imagine thinking vanilla grens are good.

Much better than Assgrens.
19 Nov 2020, 11:36 AM
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Much better than Assgrens.

Is this a joke????
19 Nov 2020, 12:08 PM
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Much better than Assgrens.

Assgrens fairly reliably beat rifles when charging them in yellow cover.
19 Nov 2020, 12:25 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Nov 2020, 12:08 PMGiaA

Assgrens fairly reliably beat rifles when charging them in yellow cover.

Then they get BARs and grenade and it’s a slaughter.

Assgrens are not good mainlines and having a unit that has to always charge in to fight is not good.

They’re fine in limited roles, but not as the mainline infantry some people use them as. LMG Grens are better for that role.
19 Nov 2020, 12:51 PM
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Honestly I just want to see at this point how well deserved nerf of VSL\Fast PGs\Osttroopens and other bandage fixes, will open ppls eyes on how "gold standart of a faction desing" was cheesing its way to the top for quite a while now.

I think you underrate Grenadiers so I don't really agree with what you said earlier about Grenadiers being laughably bad because they really aren't. One thing that is also often overlooked is that they have significantly longer snare range and arguably the best grenade amongst all mainline infantry units due to it being bugged half the time and not requiring side-tech.

But I do agree with the quoted part in a sense because I also don't understand why people think Ostheer is the gold standard of faction design. This is a myth that has been repeated so many times by "certain users" that people started to believe it.
21 Nov 2020, 21:43 PM
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Another interesting question is why do WC2020 players prefer Ostruppen commander over defensive Commander?

Osstruppen vs Osstruppen
Entrenching tools vs Defensive fortification
Artillery Officer vs Stug-E
Supply Drop vs Pak3
Railway artillery vs Sector artillery.

Since the officer was not used much nor the supply drop is the Railway artillery superior to Sector artillery?
22 Nov 2020, 11:21 AM
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It basically comes down to preference, all are mostly mediocre abilities. Railway arty is more offensive then sektor arty ( you might need something to push lategame)

One bigger change is that with entrenching tools you get acess to sandbags on cp1, while defensive fort only cp2
10 Dec 2020, 05:37 AM
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-snip i posted this in the wrong place-
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