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PTSD flashbacks

I think the thing people are not taking into account for "epic" scale games (because in terms army size coh3 is far far more massive), it's the *VP* system that makes it so you don't get into those battles that often, i think i can count on one hand the amount of super late games I've had because of it, however vs caosak when we played on 600 vps, the 3rd game ended up being a one hour slug match, which was also the first true epic scale match I've had.

Just some food for thought.

Hilarious, i went back to coh1 like a year ago, and after like 50 hours i was beating people with hours in the thousands, it's not that skillful, the micro is mainly centered around abusing bugs, and the capping system sucks and promotes blobbing.

What it does do well is something coh2 does not do at all, teching strategy, and doctrinal choices. But coh3 blows it out of the water in that aspect.

It's a solid enough game but it's not the holy grail of competitiveness the coh1 players think it is. There's a reason why they didn't make the competitive cut for ML this year.

Maybe at the highest competitive level, yes, players tend to default to the strongest available options. But again, it's like that in any game, especially one that's been around as long as Company of Heroes 2. I wasn't talking about whether or not someone could win whatever tournament with whatever strategy they wanted, I don't watch those games and I frankly don't care about what they do. I was talking about whether or not I can start an automatched 1v1 and use a diverse array of strategies with a reasonable chance of victory. This is, indeed, possible.

As for Company of Heroes 3, I'm sure that down the line it would get to the same place Company of Heroes 2 is currently at in regards to the meta. Nobody fucking plays it though and we'll probably never know once Relic shuts down!

Im incredibly confused then, because I've seen this argument time and time again, but objectively. coh3 has FAR more variety and options, because if we go by the logic of competitive skill level and "anyone" being able to do a strategy, then your options of whats actually usable is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more than enough.

Just a look at Wehr

Pio,ketten,MG,Luftpio,Gren,Mortar and sniper

All either 0 CP, or in the first buildings you get, Compare that to wehr

MG,Gren,Mortar,pio,Sniper

And then the commander options of Ostruppen and Assgrens (Which are paid DLC).

Your build variety is objectively less, and then you look at tech, it's linear, and you are stuck with basically two real options, Halftrack or 222

Meanwhile you look at wehr in coh3

2A, 222,Flak,Jaeger squad (all viable and strong units btw), that goes into marder and wirble (also strong units, though marder got nerfed into obscurity, but since we arent taking competitive levels into account then it doesn't matter)

2B Pak,Pgren,Halftrack Same thing as above, all viable and strong, that leads into stug and nebelwerfer.


Like, just look at that variety! There are so many options its overwhelming, and when you add in transfer orders you can literally change your builds on the fly, having a massive sort of variety comparetivly to coh2s wehr, where you are ALWAYS locked into triple gren, ostruppen or assgrens, an especially huge issue with USF which is why you never see elites see play.


Honestly im just trying to see where the argument of coh3 lacking variety comes from, it's just... fake? not a thing? Like how do you even reach that conclusion?

I would even go as far as to say, one of cohs WORST qualities, is lack of variety, the manpower economy punishes large armies, which with late elites makes some armies (USF,OKW arguably brits) incredibly limited by their infantry builds, USF famously basically can't build elites because by the time you've gotten 2 cps, your rifles will have you bleed so dry there's literally no point.

"8-rad call in for mechanized is made into a combat group, given an pio, raising the cost to 420 MP, this should slow down the spam, as well increasing the pop requirements, giving them a non oppressive unit to go alongside it should ensure that spam is minimized, while not outright destroying the call in.'


8 rad needs to go. It coming in before allies can even tech their respective light vehicles is cancer. That, coupled with the fact that zook rifles are completely non-viable given how squishy they are, makes them incredibly oppressive. A pair of them can effectively end the game before the 10-minute mark.

We must be playing different games, the 8rad pops out AFTER the greyhound unless you go bars first, which make sense considering you are at most stages of the early to mid of the game, ahead in manpower value, field presence, the only extremly problematic thing of the 8rad at the moment is the ROF bug.