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Well said Albus, makes me laugh when Soviets tell me they can't counter Assault Grenadiers. Micro is the counter to Assault Grenadiers, but Penals, MG's, Shocks are all the hard counters. And if the Soviet player goes for PPSh's, then even basic Conscripts are on counter-level! (Ironic I might add, considering Germans started issuing more MP 40's to counter the Russian's SMG heavy Shock Armies)

Assault Grenadiers don't really get any sort of bite until they reach Vet 2, then suddenly they can punch Shock Troops in the face!

I find the is2 pritty good, but its not op at all. Its funny that a 600mp /130f medium tank can i give a 760mp/240f HEAVEY tank a run for its money. if any thing it should be; panther are you kiding me !!!!!!

First off, the IS-2 is basically a Sturmpanzer and Panther in one. The combined cost of a Sturmpanzer and Panther is 1280MP / 270FU. Sure you can buy one while you wait for the other, but it's still a steep cost.

The IS-2's main gun has higher damage and a large blast radius than the Sturmpanzer IV. For specifics, the instant-kill radius is 2.25 (IS-2) to 2 (Sturmpanzer). That's the the strongest AI Tank on the Ostheer side, being beat by an AI / AT Tank at it's only job. Keep in mind this is against 4 man squads rather than 6, so even if they were statistically identical, it'd be better by proxy.

Now we have the Panther. The Panther shoots faster than the IS-2 does, and both have the same penetration. But the IS-2 has higher armour and higher damage, enough to make up for the ROF difference. Assuming they all penetrate, the Panther will kill the IS-2 in 6 shots, and the IS-2 will kill the Panther in 4. Those 4 come out slightly faster than the Panther's 6. The Panther's 7th and IS-2's 5th shots are roughly the same time again. The Panther has a 52% chance to penetrate the IS-2 from the front, the IS-2 has a 63% chance to penetrate the Panther from the front. Not a lot of difference, but at the same time there is. IS-2 comes out on top here.

Actually with a Panther you can micro in such a way that the IS2 is constantly stuck with Turret traverse as your drive around it getting hit after hit in as it helplessly lumbers backwards to try and get away from the Panther thats on it like a bee hive.

Have you tried turning the Tank in the direction of the turret traverse? It makes it much quicker. You should also have AT Conscripts nearby, if it's all alone in enemy territory then I don't know what to tell ya'.

Also a single Tiger thats cheaper..

IS-2 has faster acceleration, higher armour, higher penetration, and higher damage. The Tiger has higher health and a faster rate of fire. Use your speed advantages to beat the Tiger, move in, shoot, pull back to reload, and repeat. He won't be able to keep up, and he won't be able to use his rate of fire advantage.

I play both factions. IS-2 is crap. Panthers eat it for breakfast. If you are fielding infantry against it, OTOH, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You said Panthers, so I assume you mean more than one. Lets say 2 Panthers. 2 Panthers are dedicated Anti-Tank, and cost almost as much as an IS-2, which is dual Anti-Tank / Anti-Infantry. Even so, the IS-2's gun is as effective as a Panther on Tanks, and a Sturmpanzer on Infantry, the trade-off is the slow rate-of-fire. I would hope that 2 dedicated Anti-Tank's can kill one breakthrough Tank.

Alternatively, yes, a single Panther can kill a single IS-2 from the front, but that's just RNG. A T-34/76 can beat a Panzer IV from the front as well, and is even more likely to have success with this than a Panther vs IS-2 is.

Why do you attack AI tanik with infantry?

Are you going against elephants with SU-85 as well?

The IS-2 is Anti-Infantry and Anti-Tank, FYI.