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Then it only has ''Step on it!'' in the lategame where it falls into almost complete uselessness. Atleast the Kubel has maphack to be usefull in the late game.

Changing arty to a mortar barrage/smoke barrage would vastly reduce the power but still give it something for the lategame. Not sure what to do with mark target, if it needs it.

Could you make mark target a garrison bonus perhaps? The wc51 can mark a target if garrisoned with a squad? Be a shame to lose the mark target if only because it's the best designed "mark target" type ability around as it helps tame the RNG instead of doubling down on it. Makes the target weaker instead of the counters stronger.

Sturms are already in retarded possition. They are expensive, they need to rep, they need to sweep, they need to give heals (if you didnt go for Battlegroup) and also you want to give them flamenades and smoke garrisons?

I agree thet nades can be locked behind set-up, while fausts gehind trucks. But thats it. Also in regards to cover deniel, its not like OKW dont need this munition, constant spam of flame nades, may win you some engagements, but will delay STGs badly, its a trade off.

In a perfect scenario I would rather see flamenades locked behind mech track and smoke nades locked behind Battlegroup or vise versa. If anything volks need more utility rather then any other unit, because aside from snare, their usage in general falls pretty badly when upgraded\elite inf hits the field and they are non vetted (you lost vetted squad for excample).

The idea is that the flame nades are restricted earlier so that cheaper volks can't win cover fights against more expensive units. Late game when sturms need to repair and sweep volks will regain the capability. Early game when sturms are not needed they are the primary utility unit and volks are field control/holding units not semi elite assault units. Additionally the restricted flame nades would make stgs more accessible, but not compound into "I have my weapon upgrade so your only hope is using cover and focus fire but hahah if you stick I cover you will burn so better reduce that DPS while I mulch you"

Cover denial is extremely powerful, which is why the only other units that can do it are conscripts who have to pay for it and lack proper combat proficiency and stormtoopers/partisans whom both sit at 4 models and will melt if trying to prance up to an enemy position frontally and force them out.

But back to sturms and the OKW design philosophy. Volks are NOT supposed to be do it all units. Okw infantry game is supposed to be based around sturms early to get the initiative, then when trucks start rolling the game coasts a bit and relies on solidifying their gains, then obers and armour pull together the pressure late game. Volks are not supposed to be differently flavor led rifles thay carry the game from go to victory strike,×thats why there's not just 1 but 2 high impact infantry squads in the roster and more vehicles than any other faction.
The entire faction is supposed to be based on deciding how you need to use your limited high impact units (like sturms) and resources like fuel and munitions. over worked elites and picking and choosing what abilities and upgrades you need to prioritize is the idea, that's why you can get no pop trucks to pick up the slack for healing and repairs....

Hi all. I wanted to start a discussion about the future of the game given that it's already living on borrowed time as far as patch support goes.

Since we are tweaking based on the graces of our community balance team and not Relic itself I think a community consensus to the priority of what needs it's primary attention.

I understand it's presumptuous of me to make this kind of thread but I feel now is a good a time as any.

Personally, I feel there are 2 priorities.

First and foremost, that each faction can, to some degree, manage to face any and all threat another faction can field without picking a doctrine.

I believe this because I feel that commanders should be entirely extra and absolutely not necessary. Furthermore should a commander not be "necessary" it makes them easier to balance as there is none of those "x faction needs Y unit to be OP because otherwise they are finished". Doctrinal crutches should not exist.

Seconedly, doctrines themselves. This, in my opinion is something the balance team has done a great job of. The state of some doctrines has been abysmal, many, primarily vanilla factions, have never seen the light of day (fuck me rogh? The stupid bastard that bought them all pre war spoils to support the game..) anyways... The commanders the balance team have reworked are not only fresh and refined, but in multiple case have done good for commanders other than the focus based on reworked abilities. This, imo would, ", assuming part one was prioritized, be the best way to make the most content relevant. Hell not just relevant but exciting.

Personally, if at all possible and Relic willing, I'd like to see the balance focus on a faction at a time, as well as a few commanders at a time (a faction an 1 commander each? Maybe 1 per non focus faction?)
. The idea of such a discussion primarily is to maximize the amount focus and priority in case support is pulled. IN THEORY with this kind of focus, 5 more patches. Obviously more fine tuning would be needed but with a proper cycle including a nice testing phase I have faith...


Id like to hear how you, the community feel about my proposition for priorities as well as your own.

You can also go svt cons and negate mentioned setbacks.


I don't believe it is a consensus. It is just 1 guy that wants another Stuart with a t70 skin.

As for the topic, imo to make su76 a little more viable, as many already pointed out, the barrage ability needs some readjustments. The CD is the first thing that comes to mind.

To your first reply, though not to me, I want to reply:every faction should have what it needs to survive against another in its entirety without picking a commander. A commander can make it easier, but never ever ever should a commander be REQUIRED. If it is the balance is poor. If every faction can fight one another without a commander then commanders can be balanced without needing to be slated to fill balance holes.


As for the second bit to which you are replying to me, there were a few agreements and a follow up in how to make it work. This much discussion into a bad idea makes me nervous. It would be like if the balance team decided to the usf mortar needed attention because there was 3 posts in succession about 3 weeks ago. It's a dangerous waste of already limited resources to humor these outlandish suggestions. Not outlandish necessarily in scope, but given the restricted resources we need to only give credence to changes that span wide.

So the current consensus is instead of making one unit more interesting we take 2, swap their roles entirely and somehow manage to have that balanced with the minimal support we have for balance patches? Does anybody else notice how the other allied light tanks are AT primarily but don't get used as AT primarily because using a 3hk tank that has to be in enemy range to shoot isn't at all feasible? No. The T70 cannot be made into the tiers AT specialist nor does it make sense to turn the su76 into an faction swapped stug E. Both units need refinement not a redesign that could completely screw the faction for the rest of the games life.