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Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit19 Oct 2019, 18:16 PM To be honest I don't even think that JP4 is actually a bad unit. It has simply been Nerf so much while allied TD have been buffed so much that it has simply been power creeped to be a non cost efficient unit by comparison. If other TDs remain at the same power level the unit simply need a redesign. Jagdpanzer IV/70 (V) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit19 Oct 2019, 17:43 PM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2019, 17:07 PMSander93 , SU-85 has a meh ability, I wouldn't describe an ability that allow a 60 range TD to self spot at range 49 and provide mini map information at range 70 and can provide focused self spot range of 105 as "meh"... Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2019, 17:07 PMSander93 it gets +38% accuracy while the others get +30%, vs how many targets does that make a difference? since most of these unit can fire with almost 100% chance once they get bonus accuracy. (Difference here being that allied TDs will also penetrate with 100% vs most targets). In the end of the day if JP4 "fantastic" and "JP4 is criminally underrated (only) on this forum" why is so much underused compared to FF/M36/SU-85? Does any seriously claim that it comes near being as cost efficient as M36? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Inconsistencies19 Oct 2019, 12:12 PM 76 mm Sherman uses a superior pintle MG than the other version of Sherman, in addition of benefiting from both radio net and far superior vet bonuses. KT uses an inferior pintle MG while costing more than OKW mgs. In: Lobby
Thread: This is the biggest load of B.S. right here.19 Oct 2019, 12:09 PM This video is more a indication that Super heavies tank arrive to early than anything else. It could easily have been an Ostheer Tiger , a Croc an IS-2 or Pershing that won the game... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Should Axis pintle upgrade give bonus sight?19 Oct 2019, 11:21 AM Pintle is fine, hull hmg and coxial need an overhaul, and normalization both in DPS and in profile. There is also little reason for 2 tank mg to have similar DPS to 2+ 1 costing 60-70 MU. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit19 Oct 2019, 08:59 AM To get back to the original proposal a 60 mu upgrade as described by OP would help the JP4 become a more attractive options. It is a good suggestion. But imo the unit has other issues than need be addressed also. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stug Vet19 Oct 2019, 08:52 AM PLS no more earlier units. Actually its about time the pace of unit is delayed to increase window of opportunity and the length of each stage of the game. Units are being buff thru the roof so that they will be worth using for 1-2 before their hard counter comes out. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit19 Oct 2019, 00:16 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 22:13 PMblvckdream What everyone ignores for some reason is accuracy and target size. No we have not. Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2019, 12:32 PMVipper Ok lets compare the JP 4 and SU-85 at vet 0 Accuracy: 0.065/0.05/0.04 vs 0.055/0.045/0.04 .... Target size: 17 vs 18.. The accuracy and target size is inline with the other case-mate TD the cheaper SU-85 For comparison reason accuracy FF 0.066/0.055 (at range 45!!)/0.044 M36 0.05/0.045/0.035 Target size FF 23 M36 24 Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 22:13 PMblvckdream JP4 has a 96% chance to score a natural hit against a Jackson at range 60. Jackson has a 59% chance to score a natural hit against a JP4 at range 60. That alone makes a huge difference. Funny that for example you choosed the allied TD with biggest target size and lowest far accuracy, instead of the SU-85 which is also a case-mate. I guess that choosing M36, that scores the lowest in your example, was completely accidental. I also have to guess, that you accidentally forgot to mention that the same example on the move the JP4 would have a 48% chance and M36 44% (but also have to guess one can "glide shot" with slower non turreted JP4...) JP4 can duel and win vs allied TD but chasing an M36 and scoring a kill is another story and actually the performance of JP4 vs other TDs is not the issue. JP4 is designed to win slug fights vs allied TDs. The issue has more to do with the fact that one pays more than SU-85 for a unit that slightly better vs mediums and allot worse vs heavies. If trying to claim that JP4 performs superior to M36 I doubt you will find many people to agree with you. The JP4 will win a slug-fight vs a M36 but that does not make a "huge difference". Actual it make a small difference because very few people would use an m36 to slug-fight vs JP4. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit18 Oct 2019, 17:29 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 17:11 PMSander93 I don't really agree with that, the Jagdpanzer IV can quite reliably damage anything that isn't an IS-2 or ISU-152, and it still has higher DPM than the other TDs to help compensate. Regardless, Allied TDs also do not have the durability that the Jagdpanzer IV has, so I'd say the vet requirements are fair. It rather depend on what one call "reliably" and I would call anything below 60% as reliably. JP chance to penetrate at range 60 vs Churchill avre 58% Churchill Croc 58% Comet 58% KV-1 63% KV-2 57% Persing 63% ... JP ROF compared to SU-85,is only 0.65 secs faster at vet 0 and 0.045 secs at vet 3. I doubt the difference is even noticeable while having higher penetration and lower XP value. Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 17:11 PMSander93 Also I don't know of any OKW unit that has its vet 5 on par with vet 3 of other factions. Almost all units (like Ostwind, Puma, Tiger) that are shared with Ostheer, have pretty much the same vet 1-3 requirements and vet 4 and 5 are extra. Units like Volksgrenadiers or Obersoldaten also have vet 3 requirements that are comparable to Allied infantry vet 3 requirements, again with vet 4 and 5 being extras. If there are any units with vet 5 being equal to vet 3, they are an exception. I agree the Jagdpanzer IV's vet 5 isn't too useful, but I don't really mind either, because a vet 4 Jagdpanzer IV already has such amazing DPM and durability that it doesn't really matter. Axis tanks have generally higher XP value. Difference here is that other okw get mostly utility bonus not combat bonuses while the SU-85 gets better bonuses up to Vet 3 than the JP up to vet. JP4 need to get to vet 4 to significantly better ROF and the Vet 5 bonus is actually rather poor for the XP value required. A single shot doing 200 damage does not really seem that great. If armor is what in your opinion make the difference simply lower it to 160 and adjust cost/pop and XP value. The unit will become more attractive. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jagdpanzer IV Refit18 Oct 2019, 16:52 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2019, 16:50 PMSander93 It has pretty much exactly the same vet 1-3 requirements as the Firefly and the Jackson (see my previous post). Only the SU-85 has slightly lower requirements. And that makes it vet slower than FF/M36 and SU-85 since it can damage reliably only lower XP value targets. (The double part he is probably referring to vet 5 as it has been done with other OKW units where vet 5 is closer to vet 3 for other factions. TBH the first strike bonus does not seem to good when it requires double the XP value of vet 3 Su-85) In: COH2 Balance