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Thread: State of Heavies13 Jan 2020, 16:11 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 15:56 PMLago They're designed to be weak relative to Volks, which are units that start strong but scale badly. I brought PF as an example of unit starting weak and become better than other units with time. If you want to debate PF and the success of their implementation we can do so in an appropriate thread. Imo their use in the latest tournament is an indication that there are issues with them thou. Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 15:56 PMLago As for applying this to heavies, I think it'd exacarabate the problem. If a heavy needs to accumulate veterancy to be effective, players are going to deploy it as quickly as possible so it can do that before it's facing vetted tank destroyers. Given heavies being rushed all the time is the entire problem, I don't think this'd help. No the problem is not that heavies are rushed. The original problem they tried to FIX was: Tech skipping Peromance in large MOD Part of the current problem is their shock value and toning down the vet 0 performance would go along way in reducing the Super dominance. One would have to vet his super heavy before getting his weapon worth and that would make rushing them a bad investment the same way that one will find himself in very difficult spot if he decided to spam only PF. In addition the idea that unit should be balanced based only on their vet 0 performance as suggested by exsile is problematic. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of Heavies13 Jan 2020, 15:49 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 15:40 PMLago But they're still viable at low vet. The power spike of Panzerfusiliers is in their weapon upgrade, not their veterancy. G43 PF are UP for 295MP/80MU at vet 0 especialy taking into account the time they become available and they investment needed to be upgraded. But the actual implementation is besides the point since I am talking design here and the design can be seen from the patch notes: Panzerfusilliers The way Panzerfusiliers are deployed has been changed to better match their role as an alternative mainline infantry to Volksgrenadiers. They will be slightly weaker than Volksgrenadiers at the start but have access to the Anti-Tank Rifle Grenades, slightly better combat veterancy, and more powerful upgrades, giving them increased power in the late game. This should make for interesting choices and compositions. Point here the unit is designed to be UP at spawn and vet 0 and better once up-gunned and vetted. A similar design could easily apply to Super heavies. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Toggled Mortar Smoke13 Jan 2020, 15:43 PM Imo it simply add micro of telling the Mortar to stop using smoke but I really do not see a big issue with the change. What I would change about mortar smoke would be the time from ordering smoke and the time it actually lands. For me is simply way to low making mortars even more unattractive. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: State of Heavies13 Jan 2020, 15:39 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 14:53 PMEsxile That's not downside, that's plain nerf. Again I'm not against heavily nerf any heavy tank but we saw in the past the outcome of it, more whine and buff again. But just as a reminder, you value a unit from its Vet0 perspective, nobody is going to play with a unit that requires you to vet it to 3 or 5 to be good. (but I'm personally fine with that). Downside is what make you opponent use his brain to counter you without having to call his own heavy. Popcap increase is a good downside since it makes you lack something on your army composition to afford the heavy and gives your opponent room to overcome you by other ways than brute force. The MOD team already has designed PF to work that way and even Obers are designed like that becoming more useful with higher vet. And not the performance of units once vetted is very important. Actually for year Relic focused on balancing the units at vet 0 while many of the balanced issues comes from the performance of a unit once it is vetted. I have been calling for veterancy overhaul for year now and the fact that some unit had their vet abilities and bonuses looked at is good sing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can I have an empty steel bunker?13 Jan 2020, 12:02 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2020, 03:54 AMMazianni The fact people are upset bunkers can be countered by AT guns is amazing. ... It is actually it makes perfect sense. In course of game one has reason to built ATG ,while the reasons to built units to counter static emplacement has been reduced. The current performance of ATG vs bunkers/emplacements/trucks make the a far better choice than indirect fire weapons. By reducing the ATGs performance vs those units one increases built diversity. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Lefh and arty officer coordinate fire13 Jan 2020, 10:43 AM Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 09:51 AMAerohank I think the rounds are 'supercharged' when using the valentine ability. I don't know if there is any added value. 'supercharged' rounds have extended range Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2020, 08:16 AMblvckdream If it is intended what is the point of the ability and why does the Ost Artillery Officer make units on cooldown shoot (unless they bugged the howitzers of course). Just because it's UKF and they need to be screwed over? Because: Lefh is a static unit allot easier to counter with offmap than the SPG Sexton Because of the time of the change the CD of the Sexton allowed it to fire with a very small CD and if it was able to fire "victor" on top of that it would fire non stop. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: State of Heavies13 Jan 2020, 10:38 AM The problem is complex for a number of reason: 1) Commanders These unit are available to commanders some of which have good abilities to begin with so the Super heavy tank is the icing on the cake. Suggestion: one has to balance commanders so that if they have a good ability like a Super heavy tank the rest of their abilities should be UP so that the total power level of all commander abilities could be brought to about the same power level. More radical: Make all of them stock instead of doctrinal... 2) Timing Their timing is simply too early since the arrive slightly later than mediums tank while completely nullifying them. Suggestion: Delay arrival. That can be achieved by: Increasing the CP and adjusting passive CP gain in bigger MOD so that all doctrinal abilities become available around the same time. Add a research "tech" similar to BP for them (requiring resources or not) with a long research timer acting more as delay than an actual tech restriction. The same "tech" could be used to delay the replacement of the unit once it was lost so that player would need to research it again. 3) Shock value Currently these units are way too powerful and can be game changing if one is not prepared even before they appear. Suggestion: Lower base stat and increase vet bonuses with each units gaining bonuses according to its design (for instance IS-2 could get armor as bonus). That would make these units easier to counter when they appear but progressively better and thus worth building. 4) All around performance These units are simply too good as all around units better than their specialized counter parts, their armor/HP is comparable to each faction "meatshield", their AT is comparable to the "TD" and their AI is comparable to AI units. Suggestion: One could lower the performance at some area keep the performance good in another creating some sort of weakness. For instance the Tiger could keep its AT good but have its AI lowered while the IS-2 could have its AI good but have its AT lowered. Else one should imo should toned down the performance in both AI and AT and simply make cost 1.5 medium making more attractive then 2 mediums due to price and being easier to keep alive. 5) Counters Any units performance is directly related to each counters so the performance of these units can be adjusted by changing the counters. Suggestions: Lower the performance of TD at max range so that this units have more breathing room in large MOD or have special AP round similar to 76mm Sherman designed to be used against these units with more damage lower accuracy and ROF so that medium and Super heavies are balanced separately. Lower the availability cheese tactics like: Ram/off map (ram could become vet 1 and redesign as skill shot) AT satchels causing 1 hit engine damage (these weapon should cause only damage and maybe a temp critical) These changes could give more breathing room for this units in large MOD so that they do not have to be OP in smaller MODs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 82mm vs 120mm Mortar against Flak HQ13 Jan 2020, 10:02 AM This are the results I had using barrage vs medic truck perpendicular to the building aiming directly on medical cross: PM-41 3 barrages 30 secs each 12 rounds average damage 49.33 (including 2 misses) HM-38 2 barrages 50 sec each 12 rounds average damage 70 (no misses) Average DPS PM-41 0.59 HM-38 0.7 HM-38 119% better. Notes for real game scenario: 1) results would be even better for HM-38 if it was firing into FOW and there was more scatter 2) HM-38 would be far more dangerous for any unit trying to repair the truck 3) HM-38 could fire from greater range making even harder for OKW to counterattack 4) HM-38 fire more rounds per barrage requiring less micro In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: The Cancer That Is Soviet Field HQ12 Jan 2020, 23:15 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2020, 19:57 PMelchino7 Was the test done with auto-fire, attack ground or barrage? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The Cancer That Is Soviet Field HQ12 Jan 2020, 18:15 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jan 2020, 16:09 PMthedarkarmadillo They both do 80 damage per shot. Even if the little mortar does half the damage in one hit than the the 120mm it's still got the next one coming quicker. It's a zook v Shrek style scenario. The Shrek is undeniably better, but the zook has more potential dps. Because it shoots more. And hits more. Ok since here are the in game test both mortar at range 80 firing without FOW (less scatter) (couldn't see damage) PM-41 3 barrages 30 secs each 12 rounds average damage 49.33 (including 2 misses) HM-38 2 barrages 50 sec each 12 rounds average damage 70 (no misses) Average DPS PM-41 0.59 HM-38 0.7 HM-38 119% better. Notes for real game scenario: 1) results would be even better for HM-38 if it was firing into FOW and there was more scatter 2) HM-38 would be far more dangerous for any unit trying to repair the truck 3) HM-38 could fire from greater range making even harder for OKW to counterattack 4) HM-38 fire more rounds per barrage requiring less micro This this test is a good indication that HM-38 superior to PM-41 vs Trucks. (Anyone interested can conduct a similar test and share his results) Now can we please move on? In: COH2 Balance