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Thread: So...my Tiger kept bouncing against a KV-130 Sep 2020, 16:13 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 15:06 PMProtos Angelus ...You are comparing AT capability of a stock medium unit that usually goes against Shermans and T34 and Cromwells ... I am pretty sure PzIV goes also up against Churchills/Comets/Dozer Sherman/Dozer 105/Easy8s/T-34/85/KV-1s/KV-8s almost as often and thus is also "not AT+ capable" according to your own definition. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Why Soviets are OP30 Sep 2020, 16:06 PM Let me put things into perspective, Quad has more than double the AA fire power of the second best AA weapon and over 50 times more AA power than PzIV pintle MG. Just because it "the only soviet AA" weapons it has not reason to be broken. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: XP values30 Sep 2020, 16:02 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 15:10 PMSander93 There are some clear cases (like Pioneers) while others are rather subjective based on gameplay/balance arguments/POVs. For example given how the Commissar has significantly less combat potential than the Sturm Offizier, I think it's fine that it has lower vet requirements. Think you underestimating the Guards mosin or the fact that by vet 1 Commissar get an extra member or over estimate the SO, but regardless the Comissar has the same XP value as the Artillery officer while being allot more combat potent. (In addition the AO suffer from very high reinforcement time). Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 15:10 PMSander93 I would suggest to start with drawing a list of the clear/obvious cases, and then later add the more subjective ones based on the outcome of the discussions. Probably best to create a google spreadsheet with all the vet requirements (and cost, shared vet y/n, etc) so it's easy to make comparisons, although that's going to be quite a lot of work. On already exists and that where I borrowed the value from: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H5z6szCfhmAAnDprmgwLzc-viZg4HPhKZshNLErvnck/edit#gid=1644472724 All credits should go to Stein for doing most of the hard work. Well done man. What I can do is put the units in groups of similar type. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: XP values30 Sep 2020, 14:34 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:30 PMSander93 While I am all for standardizing or adjusting certain veterancy requirements, there are a lot of comparisons in the OP's list that don't really belong there or that don't need to get changed. Sturm Offizier, JLI, M10 vs Jagdpanzer (the latter costs almost twice as much), etc. It would be nice to refine the list though, so there's something to keep in mind in case we ever get to do another patch. I'll post a more detailed comment later. The list is indicator but I have to point out why these units are on the list. from the ones you mentioned: Commisar simply has to low XP value compared to Strum officer Pathfinders simply have to XP value, its lower even than pioneers. Su-85 has to low value compared to JP. Stug III has to high compared to M10. Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:30 PMSander93 It would be nice to refine the list though, so there's something to keep in mind in case we ever get to do another patch. I'll post a more detailed comment later. I can set up a list pointing out what imo it low or high. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: XP values30 Sep 2020, 14:22 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:15 PMKatitof Mans =! All. Once more you are incorrect: Jaeger Command Squad does not get shared veterancy. Now unless you want to argue that Valentine is a squad and not vehicles pls stop trolling. Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:15 PMKatitof I have pointed out that there are more units with shared vet. Never have I said these were the only missing ones. Simply pointed out your nitpicking. Glad you have seen the error of your ways and supplemented that quite vital information. Let me try to explain this to you since you seem to have trouble. The valentine is tank not light vehicle and just because kubel and 250 get shared veterancy that in no way do it mean that Valentine should also get shared veterancy. Unless you want to argue that Valentine is the same class with kubel pls stop trolling. Actually the only nitpicking is you and in nonconstructive way. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: XP values30 Sep 2020, 14:14 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:04 PMKatitof After analyzing the list, I do have to actually agree with Vipper. Regular M3 sherman should have lower vet req. All the other values are in line with base cost and combat potency of the unit. Many command units do. Command Panther, Command Tiger, Command Panzer and Command UKF vehicle do not get shared veterancy. As I said there no apparent reason for Valentine to have shared veterancy. Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 14:04 PMKatitof Kubelwagen however is not a command unit and it still has it, but you have forgotten to mention it for some reason. Same with 250. Actually you are the one that forgot to mention the long list of micro/lights vehicles that do gain shared veterancy like: M3 WC51 ... M5 M3 ... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So...my Tiger kept bouncing against a KV-130 Sep 2020, 14:09 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 13:46 PMProtos Angelus ... It's damage output vs tanks is inferior to other Axis tanks, medium or otherwise... A KV-1 firing on: OKW PzIV has 14.2/11.4/8.9/6.7/4.7 DPS Ostheer PzIV 18.6/14.9/11.6/8.7/6.2 DPS A PzIV firing on KV-1 has: 12.9/12.4/10.7/8.7/6.8 DPS Now unless you want to argue that PzIV is also not AT+ capable your argument hold no water at all. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: XP values30 Sep 2020, 13:44 PM A veternacy overhaul is very long overdue. There many units that need to have their XP values adjusted: Here are some numbers: Rear Echelon Troops 320/640/1280 Combat Engineer Squad 340/680/1360 Pioneer Squad 400/800/1600 Commissar Squad 580/1060/2120 Artillery FIeld Officer Squad 580/1060/2120 Sturmoffizier squad 780/1460/2240/2910/3780 Pathfinders 340/680/1360 I&R Pathfinders 340/680/1360 Jaeger Light Recon Infantry 520/1040/2080/3120/3970 WC51 Military Truck 300/600/1200 M3 Scout Car 460/920/1840 Kubelwagen 530/1060/2120/2650/3525 Universal Carrier 720/1440/2160 Sdfkz 221 720/1440/2880/3850/4750 M5 Halftrack Quad 540/1080/2160 Sdkfz 251 flame Halftrack 540/1080/2160 Sdkfz 250 Halftrack 720/1440/2880 M15A1 AA Halftrack 870/1740/3480 Sdkfz 251/17 AA Halftrack 880/1760/3520/4750/5750 SU-76 870/1740/3480 Sdkfz 234 Puma 1160/2320/4640 AEC Mk.III 75mm Armored Car 1160/2320/4640 Sdkfz 234 Puma 1340/2680/5360/6700/8911 M10 Wolverine 1440/2880/5760 StuG III Ausf. G 1510/3020/6040 SU-85 1790/3580/7160 Jagdpanzer IV/70 2150/4300/8600/10750/14298 M4A3 Sherman 2020/4040/8080 M4A3 76mm 1820/3640/7280 Also Valentine has shared veterancy for no apparent reason. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can we plz "fix" the CalliOPe?30 Sep 2020, 11:19 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2020, 09:53 AMKatitof From small arms infantry. Go ahead, give it 10-12 seconds alone time with shrecks or puma and see what happens. A Puma firing on Calliope for 10-12 secs will probably not kill it. Shreck firing on Calliope for 10-12 secs at max range will have a medium chance of killing it. And that is even if the Calliope is AFK being stationary. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: On map flares30 Sep 2020, 08:29 AM Add 17P as suggested from Ullumulu In: COH2 Balance