Ranger zook blob is a good way to get fucked by a brummbar.
ah no, cos zook has good range and speed of attack.
you can try it in 2v2.
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Ranger zook blob is a good way to get fucked by a brummbar.
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The su85 isent a tank
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I assume you are excluding the SU85.
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Problem with the Brum whenever I face it is that it bounces a hell of a lot of shots from both AT guns and the cromwells
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Cromwell yes, but that's obvious.
ATGs not so much.
Vet 0 ATGs have a 62-75% of penetrating a vet 0 Brummbar at max range (M1 using Sabot).
At vet 3 they have 78-85% of penetrating a vet 2 Brummbar at max range.
ZiS being the weakest, 6-pounder in the middle and M1 with Sabot having the highest chance.
Generally, two spaced out ATGs are enough to keep it at bay and will definitely out trade it in a (isolated) head-on engagement.
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Isolated as in balanced. With the ATGs protected. There's no way a Brummbar can realistically go in against two ATGs and expect to win, unless it gets exceptionally good RNG. Because unlike you claim, ATGs have very good chances to penetrate it even at max range. And that chance only goes up the further the Brummbar moves in to get shots off with its low 35 range.
Yes the Brummbar is great, and yes it can be hard to deal with.
But it does not bounce that many ATG shells.
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Isolated as in balanced? So the balance team wont be touching the Brumbar then I take it as its balanced? As I don't know how you can say something is balanced based off an ideal scenario...
It might have low range, easily penned by ATG's but you seem to forget maps being full of shot blockers, counters to ATG's being on the field, so on and so forth. With the logic of ideal scenario = balanced, then every unit in the game is balanced and no further changes need to be made, right?
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Problem with the Brum whenever I face it is that it bounces a hell of a lot of shots from both AT guns and the cromwells.
It might be balanced in 1v1's and maybe 2v2's but as I've been playing a lot of 3v3's it is very powerful in that game mode.
The rate at which it bounces shots + the fact it can be supported by TD's from either teammates or the same player due to the fast rate of fuel in team games means that saying "Go for TD's" doesn't really work.
Late game you then have to contend with a brum backed up by an ele, Jag or KT, and that's just a nightmare.
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i would say cromwell taking on a brumbar is way more effective than a p4 vs churchill or kv1.
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Brummbar and kv/churchill are so incomparable I don't even have anything to compare to.
What's the point even saying that?
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any further nerf to brumbar also need to nerf kv and churchill which ost are finding hard to fight off and have lesser tools than allies vs brumbar
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Yes, less tools than the allies. PaKs, Panzer IV/70, Pupchen, StuG, PanzerSchrecks - absolutely inadequate tools.
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When did ostheer get the Jagdpanzer 4 and the raketen?
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any further nerf to brumbar also need to nerf kv and churchill which ost are finding hard to fight off and have lesser tools than allies vs brumbar
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