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Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Today, 12:40 PM Jump back to quoted postToday, 12:08 PMKatitof Chasing. vs AT infantry, centaur armor is 100% irrelevant, because axis AT infantry has 100% pen chance. Ostwind can bounce only PTRS. Considering the two in context of AT infantry, armor is as non factor as it can humanely be, because handheld AT will not struggle to pen eiter and ATGs will 100% pen both, therefore one with better mobility has clear advantage. well no, u can't only count pen when using at weapons, the zook and piat may have less pen but the reload is better and accuracy too, centaur has less target size than oswtind alredy btw to put it simply centaur will have the same durability as medium tank vs AT inf weapons, the ostwind will not btw i think we should nerf the cromwell and t 34 and sherman they are too good at chasing In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Today, 11:53 AM Jump back to quoted postToday, 11:45 AMKatitof Do you want to make some point, or just badly wanted to make a post in this thread but didn't knew what to type? Because ostwinds aren't exactly meant to fight centaurs. my point is that armor matters as much as speed, especially after 2 YEARS of listening to people saying p4 is ultra strong vs other medium tanks and % of pen and deflection thrown left and right, and when i use the same argument but on the other side of the fence it is now irrelevant ? Ans speed matter much more ? so where is it over performing ? AI ? same as centuar as shown in the other thread, AT ? same or worse depending on the target armor and if it's moving so i will ask again why would one say centaur is ok but ostwind is op ? vs at infantry armor matter even more In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Today, 10:55 AM Jump back to quoted postToday, 02:12 AMSkysTheLimit Nobody was disputing that. The point is ill take speed that can help against all units, over armor that gives me less than a 1/3 chance of deflecting a medium and nothing against AT guns, stug, etc is this why everyone said cromwell was UP and needed more buffs and p4 was too strong In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 23:58 PM Jump back to quoted postYesterday, 21:01 PMSkysTheLimit The speed is helpful for escaping range of any unit, including mediums. You don't need to outrun the tank, it's not Nascar. You just need to get back close enough to your own units to scare medium away The p4 has about a 2/3 chance of penetrating it, everything above that is still guaranteed well, that's the point anything above p4 is either a td or heavy tank, im quite sure anything above cromwell and sherman pen 160-180 armor and again my point still stand, ostwind loses armor for speed (not even that much speed) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 20:13 PM Jump back to quoted postYesterday, 20:10 PMSkysTheLimit Pretty sure they're usually talking about okw p4/vet 2 ost. Never seen someone complain about vanilla p4 armor, but this is also irrelevant to the thread i saw people (not gonna name them here but u know them) saying the t 34 76 is less durable than other tank by a lot as it has 10-30 less armor than other medium btw back on topic, the 50 more armor of the centaur will allow it to survive a medium tank much more easily as it will have the same armor as a Sherman (and before u say ostwind can outrun other tanks, it's slower than all other medium tanks) In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 20:08 PM Jump back to quoted postYesterday, 20:07 PMSkysTheLimit The armor difference doesn't matter a whole lot at that level. Most AT still has 100% chance to penetrate. The ability to flat out escape is better Im not sure it needs even a slight nerf. But stop dismissing threads you don't like is that why people cry so much for the p4 having 20 more armor than other tanks ? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 19:11 PM Jump back to quoted postYesterday, 19:04 PMSkysTheLimit Everyone already knows they're the same when standing still. As Shadow said one of them is much faster than the other, so it's easier to handle Can you also try not to accuse everyone you disagree with of crying for nerfs? All I see is someone starting a discussion and the other has much better armor and better moving accuracy In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 18:59 PM Jump back to quoted postYesterday, 18:54 PMHon3ynuts Ostwind seems stronger until you get vet 1 Delete ability on Centaur But both relatively balanced. I think the centaur will beat the ostwind 1v1 b/c of its good armor, but i've not seen that fight to completion yes it will beat ostwind 100% ostwind has 110 armor centaur has 160 In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostwind Overbuffed?Yesterday, 18:50 PM try puma vs centaur, if last 5 second u are lucky btw ostwind and centaur have same AI performance sander tested it in the other "please nerf ostwind !!11!! RRREEEEEEEEEE!!!111!11!" THREAD In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USA September patch discussionYesterday, 18:47 PM sander vipper u are discussing with people that don't read patch notes, it's useless In: COH2 Balance