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Thread: SU-7613 Jul 2018, 17:30 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 14:37 PMgbem which would render it obsolete... besides its already soo bad at its medium tank destroyer role due to its horrible accuracy that mines + cons at nade + at guns are far more capable of destroying that first panzer 4 over an SU-76 thats the point, higer tier units cost more and comes later and are better than lower tier untis, comapre puma with panther they almost have the same role (tank hunter) if u had the money to build a panther would u build a puma ? u generaly would back tech to puma if u really need a ceap flanker or for a stun, same for su 76 (mobile barrage unit, tracking or cheap support) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7611 Jul 2018, 23:27 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2018, 18:38 PMgbem 1. what good is 60 range with an inaccurate gun? 2. radar? u mean tracking? id guess it is good... but not enough to redeem the SU since focused sight (SU-85) is cheaper... which further proves my point of the SU-76 being obsolete by the time T4 comes out... 1. what's the point of accurate gun wiht only 50 range ? 2. u mean target weak point i guess it's good but it does not deal wiht infantry like the barrage of the su 76 or gets almost auto spot wiht traking while also giving FOW info see anyone can cherry pick only the thing they dont like if the su 76 had perfect accuracy at long range and even more pen then it would be op u can't just patch up an unit weakness if not we would see anti mortar mg, teleporting mortar, 360 cone at gun with 50 armor In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7611 Jul 2018, 23:21 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2018, 20:07 PMgbem nah thats because youre trying to compare the su-76 and the StuG in a vacuum... one must also compare what armor they face... of course i dont think su-76s should be a counter to panthers... but my point here is that the StuG counters all non doctrinal allied armor with 170 penetration in contrast to the higher penetration SU-76... which only counters light vehicles and the P4... in other words there is nothing the StuG cant penetrate on the allied side non doctrinally... so it doesnt need higher penetration as it will kill anything short of a call in (or british) tank anyways so yes my main argument still stands... the StuG has a place even with ost T4 around as the premier axis tank destroyer... the SU-76 simply becomes redundant by sov t4 as it now underperforms in both AT and AI roles... it should exceed in 1 role at the very least so it remains useful even with sov T4 around comet and churchill cry in a corner In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7611 Jul 2018, 18:08 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2018, 15:59 PMgbem i wish the SU-76 had .4 long range accuracy more HP and 160 damage on its main gun... and had target weakpoint and stealth capabilities u know, the radar and the 60 range are not bad In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" Sherman versus M4A3 (76) Sherman10 Jul 2018, 16:40 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Jul 2018, 12:22 PMKatitof StuG had a number of factors making it best TD, extremely cheap cost, very low pop, rapid fire and TWP all added up to that. What does 76 have? -not the cost(its 2nd most expensive "at" allied tank in game) -not the pen(EZ8 is vastly superior) -not cheap pop -RoF is ok, but EZ8 is still MUCH better in med on med combat because it can actually deflect AND penetrate reliably, while posing a real threat to heavier tanks as well AND being able to survive extra shot. 76 sherman introduces a good alternative to soviet T34/76, but not to 34/85. It was a breath of fresh air for soviets back in the day and the doctrine was picked exclusively because of DSHK and ability to call it in, without that, the unit died as both, 34/85 and KV-1 are much better alternatives for the cost. The same thing applies to USF and regular M4 as well as ez8. i already said that 8/10 times the easy 8 is better but on medium vs medium the pen is good enough and it has enough armor to bounce shoots too, the reload is around 2 sec at vet 3 while the easy 8 is still around 5 sec (and has only around 20 more pen) and the 76 is faster In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" Sherman versus M4A3 (76) Sherman10 Jul 2018, 11:09 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2018, 22:25 PMKatitof For it to be actually like that, it would have to have pen comparable to wolverine, but then it might just as well be wolverine. Its weaker EZ8 that costs just as much. well the stug was called the best TD and has average pen for a TD what really made it shine was the reload speed so the same logic should be applied to the versions of the sherman (and if u look at the scatter and aoe profile) easy 8 is more of a generalist while the 76 is more honed for tank damage thanks to the high reload so i do think that the easy 8 will be better 8/10 times but the 76 is by no means a bad tank and shine more on Mtank on Mtank fights In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" Sherman versus M4A3 (76) Sherman9 Jul 2018, 22:20 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2018, 15:26 PMShadowLinkX37 Thats the only advantage the 76 has over the EZ8. It has a monster reload rate of 2.5ish seconds when vet 3 and that's w/o radio net. Everything else, armor, penetration, HP and scatter all go in favor of the EZ8. 76 is more for tank killing In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: King Tiger balance fix: smoke launchers4 Jul 2018, 20:59 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jul 2018, 20:38 PMKatitof Going to ignore KT having more HP and 50% better dmg? the point u btw u forget the +5 range, what wrong kat ? u are missing ur shoots lately In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Counter Sherman Easy 8 as OKW 4 Jul 2018, 20:55 PM JP4 is ur answer to anything classified as not-heavy tank In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: conscript veterancy and their lack of weapon upgrade24 Jun 2018, 22:11 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Jun 2018, 21:37 PMroll0 If ostruppen can be given a MG42 upgrade I don't see why cons can't have a single DP for 45muni with t4. It has much lower DPS than the 42 so would still stay balanced with high con accuracy at vet 3. the point -----------> U In: COH2 Balance