Why on earth do sections need 50% moving acc? Seriously.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:52 PMIncendiaryRounds

Yeah, and if u do the math, 5secs for 10 munis, oorah should cost 20munis. And I've seen cons oorah backwards to safety to counter agren sprint. Con DPS curve is far more generous than agrens.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:52 PMIncendiaryRounds

Stock ability is more cost effective than the doctrinal ability? Nothing to see here. Just a typical day for Ostheer.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 19:44 PMSuperHansFan

And as the only allied faction with four man squads what options do brits have vs Wehr sniper and ost doctrinal inf?

No doubt bolster is effective, but its pretty much mandatory vs Wehr sniper play to prevent early retreats. We saw how strong 5man gren into sniper was last tournament as Tommy spam was punished.

Now imagine how quick those games would have finished in Ost wins with four man squads. It's all good saying brits can rely on weapon upgrades that can up their DPS instead, but vs sniper play you need staying power in engagements and Brens can't help you there. Any rework with bolster with changing Tommy power level needs to have them at five man for this reason. We already had a year of Ostheer sniper dominance vs Brits when bolster was more expensive and fielded later. But it was changed to come earlier to give a chance vs sniper cheese.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:58 PMSkysTheLimit

So they spent 15 munitions to counter your 10 muni. Your "math" is completely ignoring the fact that sprint is more valuable to a cqc squad than one with bolt actions....



Only in your crazy world

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:56 PMKatitof

Ah, I see you haven't played Soviets last couple of years!
At the current state, we're lucky merge and ram do not cost muni.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:59 PMIncendiaryRounds

It's useful in lobbing nades, but cons have at nades and molotovs so its equally useful. Agrens have a small window to take advantage of its DPS curve with sprint.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:03 PMSkysTheLimit

Again, oorah is already cheaper. Not to mention mollys and at nades require their own fuel to unlock, so your argument about cost effectiveness is nonsense

How many people do you need to tell you 5 muni sprint is a terrible idea?

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:06 PMIncendiaryRounds

So Ost players have to micro harder than the other factions for no extra reward.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:09 PMSkysTheLimit

Yeah hitting that F hotkey is so fucking difficult. Lawl

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:11 PMIncendiaryRounds

Seriously, then why don't we make ass tommies use the F key or Cav rifles, or ass engies, etc.


iT's jUsT aN F kEy, wHat'S wRonG?

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:19 PMSkysTheLimit

You want Cav rifles to have sprint? A squad that has an AT satchel?

You want ass engies to have sprint? With a flamethrower also available

You are an absolute clownshow lol

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:11 PMIncendiaryRounds

Seriously, then why don't we make ass tommies use the F key or Cav rifles, or ass engies, etc.


iT's jUsT aN F kEy, wHat'S wRonG?

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:23 PMIncendiaryRounds

Nope, I meant to nerf them to the point where they'll lose to grens when charging from max range and then giving them sprint so now they'll be entirely dependant on sprinting or ambushing to win an engagement. Currently agrens can't afford to charge rifles or sections despite costing the same so they're entirely dependant on abilities. The other CQC infantry can actually afford to charge grens and win.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:03 PMIncendiaryRounds

Speaking of muni spamming, Zis barrage for 35 is ridiculously cheap for what it does. Each damn shell is like a bundle grenade but there's no timer, little warning and at gun barrages from afar which won't risk it's crew. The scatter is very tight as well. Damn thing regularly wipes support weapons like nobody's business due to lack of warning.

It used to cost 45 FOR GOOD REASON.

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 19:43 PMKatitof

Less then 2,4 for 4 man tommy squad at range 14(easiest calculation).
For contrast, tommies at that range -IN- cover have 16 DPS.
So it moves their DPS from less then 5 to less then 8 (they have less DPS out of cover and I couldn't care enough to fetch the exact values).

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 22:50 PMMusti

So all of this screaming is about 3 dps difference on a tommy squad? Assuming they move IN cover?
Fair enough I didn't expect any less XD

Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2020, 21:58 PMSkysTheLimit

So they spent 15 munitions to counter your 10 muni. Your "math" is completely ignoring the fact that sprint is more valuable to a cqc squad than one with bolt actions....



Only in your crazy world