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Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 19:21 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 18:50 PMMazianni Okay, so you think HGB on Tommies are a problem in general. This would have been a more successful premise for a thread, I think. To be honest he made that point pretty clear. His issue is IS having both smoke and the HGB. However the newest commander (the one with assault tommies) gave UKF a smoke mortar from the get go. Still there were no huge issues reported. Also you could just use the smoke shell of Cromwells and what not. Now it will just become slightly more accessible, that's all. In my eyes not enough to invest into potentially longer rebalances. In: Lobby
Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 19:16 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 17:38 PMVipper "Super Heavy tanks" where not broken to being with, they become broken when they tried to "fix" them. And this is quite a common pattern on the Coh 2 patches history, units become OP and then UP again and persisting problems being fixed at a very low rate. Heavies were broken in a sense that they were never used beside sometimes the Pershing and the Elefant in large team games. OKW was designed around the KT and also OST is supposed to regularly bring on a Tiger. The game is designed with heavies in mind, and to be honest it would be a shame if the game did not include them properly. But that is very subjective. Balance team decided to bring them back to the game again which was a very good thing. So they did a complete rework of how heavies function. Turns out that you can't foresee all consequences of a complex set of changes. No surprise here. It is a bit of a shame that it took multiple months until they might finally be fixed, but as a matter of fact the meta now is not really worse than the meta we had before gameplay wise. And demanding regular updates and fixes from people that spent their free time on it would be inappropriate, especially since they have done an exceptional job in the last two years. CoH2 has never been better and strategies more diverse, even if there are issues and current metas. Earlier every faction had three commanders at best that were somewhat viable. There was no selection. Now you at least have to pick a few from a group of viable ones. Well, back to topic, and I think this will likely be my last post since we will start running in circles now: I don't think the HGB will become such an issue that we need to rework it before the patch. Spending so much time on reworking a minor ability will leave more glaring issues unfixed. The game is better off with other fixes. And if it really turns out to be a major issue, then a hot fix will do in a month or two. In: Lobby
Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 16:58 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 16:54 PMVipper I have to disagree with resources investment as an argument. When one has limited resources one should focus to problems that are easier to fix. When one gives exams one should first answer all the question that are easy to answer and then move to more complicated issues. One will have secure points even if he does not have time to complete the complicated issues. Nope, you first fix the stuff that is broken and then go for optimization. After that you sort your list to stuff that has the highest gain for low effort. The current HGB is not a balance issue, just the design is not pretty. It does not harm the gameplay. Still it would take quite some time to do it. Don't take my word for it if you don't want to, take Sander's words. So you have low gain/medium-low effort, it's also part of the optimization branch, so it's quite far down on the list where it honestly should be. Heavy tanks currently harm the gameplay ("broken" in some sense). Fixing them is high gain/high effort and is therefore overall better. In: Lobby
Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 16:35 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 15:39 PMVipper Fine with me. I do not like talking about off topic things either. Not in my point of view. This would actually give players more reason to produce more Ro.E. instead of spamming IS only. IS already can fight, build sandbags, cashes, sandbags, trenches, spot, call arty, heal and fight they do not need the extra utility of high explosives it can be easily transferred to Ro.E. Heavy gammon was "changed" to be closer to Satchel at DECEMBER 19th 2017. If I had to guess I would that reason behind this was that the ability was UP and probably Relic was still insisting that UKF should not have access to a normal AT grenade. The satchel approach was more like a band aid fix in making the ability more useful. The actual "new" design is that now, UKF have access to a normal snare and thus the HGB needs to be incorporated better to the "new" design. The reason why I am talking about original design here is because there is starting point since the original values exist and have been tried. I can agree with the general reasoning. I think there are three options: - Leave as it: Maybe not as pretty design wise, but also this is almost "tried and tested". Less work, so far no real issues beside it's "not pretty" so to say. After patch potential problems with smoke. - Give IS an AT focused HGB: New idea, rebalancing/tweaking needed. Would basically give all UKF units a snare (although IS only get it very late game) - Give RE an AI focused HGB: "New" idea (build from 2 years ago, but at that time it was on IS(?)), rebalancing/tweaking needed; would give all UKF units some form of grenade. I discarded the double AT thing on REs for already explained reasons. I'm not against rethinking the HGB. But looking at the current live game, I think balance team should invest their resources elsewhere. In: Lobby
Thread: PM-41 Flares23 Feb 2020, 15:24 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 14:21 PMlovendead Its not really that simple on 4v4 match, GrW 34 counter barrage is vet 1. they can flare u 1st and barrage your mortar before you can counter them And you talking about mid to late game counter IMO on early game + flares + standardized performance it is so hard to counter 6 men pm-41 on that early stage The counter barrage minimizes micro and let's you focus on something else. While the power balance of these secondary abilities can of course be discussed, you present it highly biased. Also, as sad as it is: 4v4 matches are not a good reference for balancing units because the whole design of the game does not scale well (starting as early as map size etc). In smaller modes the flare is good, but also a mun drain. There's more space to maneuver, and less unit density, which means that your flare will give you less information and is therefore not as much worth it as in dense 4v4s where you're guaranteed to discover something. In: Lobby
Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 15:18 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 14:22 PMVipper (...) Okay, the root of this is that we disagree on the Penal satchel in the first place. While I'd rather prefer to have a normal grenade, the satchel is mostly fine in my opinion. I will skip over quite a few other points because I think it would derail too much (like Penal AT satchel exclusive with normal satchel and the whole balance team thing). Just the last two points: - IS having both grenade and HGB: Yes, suboptimal from a design point. But it's also in the current live game and does not cause balance problems. One could change it, but this would only lead to more issues that need fixing (for example: Giving the HGB to Sappers only, which is basically a nerf for usability as Sappers are occupied with repairing and there are only 1-2 on the field. This in turn would be a slight nerf for Hammer Tactics, which would require a buff in another domain etc etc.). - reverting to inital HGB design: I'm not sure from which built the inital design you're talking about stems. But as far as I remember the HGB has not been changed for a long time. So you want to implement an old design into the new build and this is your argument that the implementation will be seamless and balance issues cannot arise? Sorry, but this does not make any sense. Old designs can of course cause issues in the current build. In: Lobby
Thread: PM-41 Flares23 Feb 2020, 14:05 PM What usually gets somewhat standardized is the standard performance of a unit. Afterwards every unit gets some ability goodies according to the faction's design. In: Lobby
Thread: Why maxim is trash23 Feb 2020, 13:59 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 13:27 PMT.R. Stormjäger Not defending the maxim, I think it’s a PoS, but seriously after they got suppressed and were obviously crawling for a grenade, he should have repositioned the maxim further away to not allow a grenade throw. Yes, he should have. Which is exactly why the Maxim is so frustrating if there is light cover, the PGrens should not have been able to throw in the first place. I assume we agree on that. But to be honest if you reposition your MG you can assume that it should win. I stopped the time: From being suppressed starting the throwing animation was not even 2 seconds. And the time to the grenade exploding were an additional 4,5 seconds. So he had about 3 seconds from supression to ordering the repositioning, otherwise quite a few members will eat the grenade. That's enough time to do it, but when you reposition your MG you usually assume that the enemy squad should be suppressed and stuff like this does not happen. Look away to some other fight for 2 seconds and there is no way to dodge it anymore. The whole issue in this video arises from the fact that the first model of PGrens was in yellow cover for the first burst of the Maxim. Thereby the squad did also not get suppressed by the short second burst and the PGrens were almost in throwing range by the third burst which finally suppressed. This is just bullshit. In: Lobby
Thread: Heavy Gammon bombs/ smoke23 Feb 2020, 13:44 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 12:10 PMVipper HGB has a range of 12 and can keep vehicles immobile for a very long duration. I don't know the exact range of a satchel. 10? But it's about that, there is no huge difference. Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 12:10 PMVipper You should not use the Penal as the benchmark because their are badly designed. You also seem to underestimate the long immobilization effects and possibility of "stun lock" especially if the weapon becomes homing. Finally have even less reason to compare it to Penal because my suggestion is either to be moved to Ro.E. or to become a homing "soft snare" for IS. I compared the HGB to Penal satchel as they are basically the same abilities. The satchel ability is not OP, so unless the HGB synergizes extremely well with IS or any of their abilities, there will be no problem (I already addressed the smoke twice). Also I am talking about the HGB in it's current implementation, which should be clear from my post. Please read it carefully, I never suggested that it should be a homing snare with stun lock and everything. The HGB is basically a normal satchel. Make it a normal satchel then. No stun, just engine damage. If you get stunned/snared by a normal satchel, you very well deserved that because you did not react to the squad closing in, the whole duration of the throwing animation and a >3 seconds fuse. Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 12:10 PMVipper Penal do not have access to smoke or to HE grenades. I have stated thrice now that I do not think it will become a huge issue for multiple reasons. You have not addressed anything of this apart from repeating that they can be used together with smoke. Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 12:10 PMVipper Imo patch team (Relic and MOD) have spend too much time fixing the "important" things (and then having to fix them again and again) and far less fixing smaller thing that could improve the game allot and are "easy" and "safe" fixes. The change is simple and easy. Simply revert AOE damage changes, keep the munition reduction make the weapon homing and remove the affect that make the vehicles immobile or move its Ro.E and remove the immobilization. Yes I just completely disagree on that. Balance team should fix the glaring issues and not spent their limited time on minor things unless they are very easy and unlikely to cause issues. What you are suggesting here is 1. A complete rework of the ability 2. followed up by a change of the unit that has access to it This is not an easy thing to do and requires a lot of time and testing for honestly little gain. Nothing about is "simple and easy". What makes you so sure about your idea not having to be fixed "again and again" (which is an overexaggeration, many things have been quite fine after the first patch and potentially a small hotfix) as well? In: Lobby
Thread: Why maxim is trash23 Feb 2020, 13:20 PM Jump back to quoted post23 Feb 2020, 12:47 PMdreamerdude some moderator you are. is this all you do to the people in these forums is troll? or attack them? no wonder why this site is such a shit show is because people like you run it. I gave my honest run down that seemed to have happened on what went wrong and you just come out with something as non constructive as this. Not sure what you're on about. If you mean the post responding to Esxile the irony is quite obvious. If you mean the response to your post there is no attack whatsoever. You should tell apart critique from attack. You listed four points that you think Esxile did wrong, the first two of which I questioned because they do not make sense in my opinion. But if you want we can take this to PMs and not clutter the forum with this. I stand by my opinion: Esxile repositioned his MG accordingly as soon as he saw that there was a flank coming, the Maxim was already set up before the PGrens showed up. Then - as I stated - the Maxim was frontally charged, there was no blind spot. It should be out of question that the MG should not be forced to retreat in such a scenario because the attacking unit had yellow cover for (I stopped it) about 1,5 seconds. That's what MGs should be there for: stopping units by suppression before they can close in. And the Maxim has huge problems with that if the attacked unit has some light cover which becomes more and more problematic the longer the games takes due to arty. In: Lobby