Profile of Hannibal

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just dont like the way in this games TD mechanics and try to come up with the solution. Thinking loud nothing more.

Don't mind too much about some users that have replied to this thread, many are just trolling.

I don't know which size of games you talk about. Balance mostly refers to 1v1 and 2v2. Larger modes are hard to balance since they mostly rely on the skill of your random mates and just blobbing at the right time. Many of the cores game mechanics don't work properly (flanking becomes more and more irrelevant since the unit density increases extremely) and arty fares way better the larger the mode is.

Balancing according to team games is therefore hard to do, you either screw small or large game modes. Small modes however are less prone to RNG and fit the games overall design better, so that's why balance team usually only uses 1v1 and 2v2 as a reference.

There are very few tweaks that you can do to adjust team games without altering the balance in small modes too much (mostly pop cost adjustments), but I doubt that this would "fix" the Tiger.

It not semantics it is of essence. Some light vehicles can be killed be small arm fire, most light tanks can not, these vehicle are of different category. One is forced to invest into anti vehicle counters vs light Tanks.


And this is the point. T-70 should cost less and be less lethal. If that means that OKW T2 should also be timed later so bit it.


Again is more about Ostheer than OKW


So lets tone down these power spikes and improve the game.

Let's not argue about semantics. If people talked about the LV phase the T70 was always included, and while you might make a difference between these units, the majority of the forum does not.

I don't see the point why the T70 should be changed (I'd even argue it would be an overall nerf regarding SOV faction composition) and why OKW T2 should be delayed. Both does not make sense. OKW T2 comes at a perfectly fine timing. If people come to the conclusion that something has to be done about the T70, then be it. But at the moment I am not convinced that the issue is that huge.

Also in general power spikes are important to keep the battle flowing. Of course it should not be so severe that this unit wins the game for you, but if every factions techs to about the same power level at the same time there is no use in teching at all from a design point of view.
To get back to the T70: T70 is fine against OKW, the respective OKW power level at the time the T70 comes out is fine for all three Allied factions. The only setup where I can see potential trouble is OST. So just give OST better tools to deal with a T70. Otherwise it would likely mean that all other factions need to be rebalanced. Of course this assumes that the T70 is atm fine for it's cost and timing (which I think it is)

It not a light vehicle it is a light tank. If it arrives later it arrives later than OKW vehicles so delay those vehicles.

Lower the price of the T2 truck so it set up in the same time as T1 and have vehicle production (puma? Stuka?)require engineers. Now Puma comes later.


This is OKW issue.

Arguing about the semantics does not lead us anywhere.

Both OKWs LVs and the T70 arrive according to their cost and performance. There might be slight rebalances with some units but all in all it is okay.

I'm actually not sure what the current argument is about. The T70 is a very strong unit, but it also has the shortest time of all LVs where it can roam freely. OKW T2 has the perfect counter to it. Also the T1 FHT can significantly damage a T70.
OST is a bit on the short end since zhe T70 both amplifies the weakness of OST (4 man squads vs high wipe potential of the T70) and the lack of a LV counter. I find that a supported 222 can do the job decently. The autocanon can do decent damage especially vs the side armor. And no SOV player would dive his expensive T70 to kill a 222. It takes a lot more micro to pull off though. The other options OST has is a StuG rush or depensing on the map Panzerschrecks. Tellers can protect vs dives but it also requires a lot of skill and micro to bait units onto mines.


So, final conlusion of mine:
T70 is strong, but no major readjustments needed. OKW can counter the unit perfectly, OST might need a slight rework, but I think this is not specific due to the T70 but more the faction's power spikes in general.

The arty flare is not a big issue at the moment because people rarely play Spec Op at the moment. However I think it is bad design. Placeable flares for Volks like Cons or the ones that Panzerfüsiliere have would be better as they require more than a click and are actually counterable.

The Brit early warning is very unbalanced though. Nothing you can do about it. It usually performs at least well, but on maps where the frontline is on the diagonal it reveals basically all of the enemy territory that is worth seeing. It's bad design because there is no counter to it and it performs so differently depending on the map layout.

Due to sparse time, I could not follow the complete discussion, but I'd like to chime in with an idea that at least recently has not been made:

Why not just nerf the Jacksons mobility? I actually don't see much reason why the Jackson has to be as mobile as it is. High pen, yes, very good reasons for that. High ROF, also reasonable. But high mobility? USF ATG is as mobile as every other ATG in the game, then they have highly mobile Bazooka squads. The only reason why the Jackson "should" be able to scoot around the battlefield like it does today is to fit everything to the mobile design of USF.

Now I don't want to make it as slow as a Churchill or something, but what about SU85/Firefly level (from 6,5 to approx 5,5) and also a bit slower rotation?

It would bring it quite close to the Firefly then design wise, but that would make the Jackson more susceptible to dives and flanks while keeping the very much needed offensive capabilities. At the moment it can drive away from a P4 (P4 speed is 6,3 for OST and 6,0 for OKW version), at least that should not be possible.