Now imagine relic stops sucking and fixes their specular lighting issues. I know. Its just a dream. Not realistic at all. I mean, why would we expect 1999 level graphics in 2023.
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Thread: Upcomming cosmetics18 Jun 2023, 19:52 PM
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies16 Jun 2023, 05:35 AM
One more post:
IpKai stated you can see peoples pronouns on LinkedIn. I have yet to see where. But I did notice something about a person that would have made me never make the bad post. I felt pretty strongly I had a handle on the situation and that no one would be hurt by the post. I did not just blindly make the post. Now I fear my guess was wrong.
So I actually deserve a double ban. Double demotion. As far as Org is concerned, I have been let off lightly. I dont even know why I was banned from Relic so I cant answer that question.
At the time of the post, we were all looking at peoples LinkedIn accounts. Because we were concerned about the people losing their jobs. No one wants this to happen ever, for any reason. Especially on a franchise we want to succeed.
With all of the variables I had, I was confident the post was pushing it but was valid in context. It was no different than what we were all doing already. And it was commentary on the world in general at this point in time.
When Relic has a video stream, peoples pictures are posted here. And people make comments. I bet you could say "That guy looks like a complete doofus! What a moron! I know he is the reason Coh3 sucks!" and not receive a ban. I was doing the opposite. I was saying these people are most likely smarter than I am, I do not suppose to judge their capabilities.
But I failed to realize two things:
1) Making the posts too funny. They were hard to understand. This opens you up to being banned because mods dont have time to figure this all out. Too much work to decide if it is valid or not.
2) As stated above, I felt this was one time posting someones image was ok. A very rare situation, never to be repeated. We were all already looking at them. It was not new information. And it is public information anyone can see. But I failed to recognize that posting an image at this juncture would open the door for pictures being posted in less clear situations in the future. And would just cause a spiraling down effect in future posts made by myself and others. As a mod, this has to be removed because it is like a cancer that will just grow.
My main goal is fun intelligent conversation. Never to harm anyone. And I dont mind pushing boundaries to find truths. But this time, I failed to see all of the variables.
If anyone from Relic was upset by the posts. I apologize.
Just as GBPirate has taken over as COH mapping guy. I will await one of you guys to take over as the funny guy who makes "unhinged" posts. Maybe Reverb was the hero we needed all along.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies15 Jun 2023, 11:16 AM
15 Jun 2023, 11:04 AMHannibal
Careful, you are making way too much sense. People will begin attacking you in ... 1... 2...
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies15 Jun 2023, 11:10 AM
15 Jun 2023, 10:32 AMEsxile
As per communicating of the reasons, Relic is fully entitled to not produce their evidences at will and only reserve them in case of legal action. AKA if Relic does so, and so the majority of major gaming companies, when banning players that's because legally it is way better for them to manage it that way.
You make an interesting point that counters what you are trying to do.
If you were a company making a game. You dont want to pay someone to sit in a cubicle all day explaining to people why they got banned.
A) Explain to people why they got banned and post a date of release.
B) Explain nothing and possibly get a legal action started against you.
You are right. I should bring legal action against Relic. Then maybe they will see the benefits of just posting some information on the game screen.
Which way is more cost effective for Relic?
1) Pay no one and print the answer in game.
2) Pay someone a low salary to answer inquiries all day.
3) Pay legal fees when they get sued. Lawyers are cheap I hear.
I was talking to someone who got banned from another product and they stated the company sent you a number. You could then log on and enter your ban code. This would have more details about why you got banned.
This would be very easy to implement. PageP could bang this out in under an hour. Since it is Relic, it will take 6 months at least. But it could be done. And they would not have to touch the game/server side code.
Sounds like a good option also.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies14 Jun 2023, 21:57 PM
14 Jun 2023, 21:14 PMHannibal
Thanks for this behind the scenes look. Very enlightening post. I always try to back the mods. You guys do this for free. And all you get for it is hate and arguments.
As Shadowlink has stated, my personal ban probably comes from years of being on the verge of being demoted. Not a black and white situation in his mind. Or probably in the persons mind who actually demoted me. And I can agree with this as a valid reason.
You guys do not have an easy job. I apologize for making it harder for you. But I do it mostly to make it fun here. Which sometimes is not reason enough for the hassle it causes.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies14 Jun 2023, 18:20 PM
12 Jun 2023, 12:42 PMOKSpitfire
I think most people on here know that your criticisms come from the fact you are just very passionate and love the game.
I appreciate your intelligent comments.
Some interesting background on me and Coh.
I used to play Quake 3 at work everyday. Everyday at lunch. Sometimes after work. It all started organically that some people just started playing. Eventually someone was a dick to management and games were banned at work.
I had a huge office because I was a technician that needed space. I also had several PCs setup for long running tests. So my office became the hidden/secret gaming lab. Management knew but turned a blind eye if we kept it quiet.
I then wrote a mod for Quake 3 to make it funner and wrote an app that sorted thru the game log so we could all gather after a game and see kill logs, graphs, who killed who the most, etc. It was heaven. It made going to work fun for many people. And the connections it made between people that normally would not interact got stuff done for the company.
There were two buildings that played. When the ban came down we had to take roll to know who was playing. We only had so many PCs. That is where I really began to know my future wife. We would have to talk everyday before lunch to see who was playing.
Eventually, we got tired of Quake 3 everyday. We switched to vCoh. So my future wife played vCoh everyday at lunch.
When I finally started playing Coh2 (because Tric said I should), it was like I died from heaven and went to a better heaven.
To me this community is the coolest thing to ever happen on earth. When I was asked to be on Org as a member, I felt like I was back at work making the day better for everyone each day. But I was hesitant to join because I could see how badly run Relic was. And being very passionate about its success, I will not bite my tongue.
This is why I wanted to make maps better. Make a CELO app that would help streamers. Give money to tournaments, etc.
Playing my favorite game Coh, watching tournaments, watching streams, interacting with people who play the game, etc is very important to me. Anything I can do to make it better for others is what I will always try to do.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies14 Jun 2023, 17:53 PM
14 Jun 2023, 17:15 PMSkysTheLimit
You can't be serious
It is a grey area. That is the whole point of this topic. A good lawyer could rip thru either side of the argument.
Some people: You posted an employee picture you are evil.
Other people: You suggested Relic hired trans people over others. You are evil.
Relics judgement lies somewhere in between. It would help people to know where that line is.
How can a person know where the line is if you cant ask what exactly is the criteria for being banned?
It is not possible to post every possible option for being banned. Therefore, Relic must respond with detailed information about what exactly got you banned.
The counter argument is Relic does not have the resources to argue every ban. So to limit the back and forth with the accused, I would suggest providing as much detail as possible with a time limit on the ban.
- User team kills and gets banned.
- Gets CODE OF CONDUCT message. Player is still confused exactly what they did.
- Asks Relic/Sega support.
- They respond "You destroyed your team mates base buildings. This is defined as team killing. Your ban is up in 2 weeks".
That is the bare minimum I would expect. It would be best if this was printed right in game, but we all know Relic is not good enough to do that. So it falls on John and Gabby's shoulders.
The next conversation is should Relic respond to more of this persons inquiries? At what point do they stop responding? Time is money. If it is done right the first time, they would never have to respond again.
1) Relic are wasting their own money by NOT PROVIDING PROOF AND BAN DATES. They are begging people to harass them with inquiries.
2) If they just printed ban reasons and dates in game, it would cost them nothing. No human interaction would be required at all. Community Managers / support would never need to be contacted.
3) They are losing future sales to people who have felt like they were being wronged.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies14 Jun 2023, 17:30 PM
14 Jun 2023, 12:58 PMGdot
Rosbone, stop wasting your energy, what is done is done. Take solace in the fact that you will be around longer than Relic/COH3 will.
I agree, I alone will not change Relics operations. I may be able to get thru to Org admins that adding some more info is a good thing. Once they realize I am not trying to be a troublemaker and just want the site to be better.
But you guys love drama. So I was originally just going to move on and do the other stuff I normally do when not playing Coh2. But I have been adamant about this policy for years and no one cared. With the drama of being banned I knew I would get more eyes on the subject and maybe get some changes made.
Sadly, most RTS players (people in general) have no reading comprehension. So they are just focused on why I got banned and are throwing out guesses. It is not my job to guess why I got banned, I have given examples why this is. It is Relics job. And they are not doing it.
So your assessment is spot on. Waste of time. Every single time I have ever worked with people I have been let down by their lack of logic/intellect. It started in the 3rd grade. That must have been when I began surpassing those around me.
I post on several other websites. Never come close to being banned. But Coh is an all white male played game ages 18-70. I know the audience here. Being an RTS I always assumed intelligent people play it. This gave me the personal license to push limits I would normally apply on other sites.
This site, to me, is an extension of Twitch. Communities gather on Twitch and chat for info and entertainment. When that streamer turns off, people fill in here as they wait for the next streamer to start. But the people here are not always here for entertainment. So they are very sensitive and maybe even socially stunted a little. The only conversations they want are "Are Pgrens under performing". Anything beyond that they take personal and begin to harbor hatred for that person. It is very weird. And it does not appear to exist in the Twitch Sphere.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies14 Jun 2023, 17:11 PM
14 Jun 2023, 16:22 PMGrittle
From reading your rants and posts from this thread alone
This is way off topic, but what exactly do you see as a rant? I am curious.
I like to give people all of the information. So I try to give background. For some reason everyone who plays RTS (maybe all games) sees any discussion that does not fall inline with their thoughts as a rant.
For instance I gave some info one could perceive as a "rant" when I said I was a BLUE member on Org and was told to F off. The point of that sentence is, even as a member of this website team I was dismissed without any hard evidence. Meaning, you guys who are not members could be banned even easier than I was.
In truth, as a blue I was probably given a lot more latitude than you guys would. It is just a warning to you guys as users.
I try not to rant. But I will if it proves a point, gives background, or I find it funny. We all come here for entertainment.
Thread: Relic and Org need to update their banning policies13 Jun 2023, 19:34 PM
13 Jun 2023, 18:59 PMdonofsandiego
This is the best gif that could have been posted. 1000 internet points to you my good sir!
EDIT: I will be laughing for the next week thinking about this gif.
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