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Thread: Why not add more rng to this game17 Dec 2020, 22:53 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Dec 2020, 23:51 PMSerrith Your commanders are selected at random. At the start of the match, the game selects a random commander from your load out and thats what you get to play with. Your units spawn with random weapons. You might get a conscript squad armed with STG44s or armed with m1911s. No two matches would ever be the same. i always thought a tournament where the enemy picks your commander (or at least commander load out) would be hilarious In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback17 Dec 2020, 22:52 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 22:44 PMArray An upgrade that boosts both AT and AI is poor design. not really... weapon racks for both factions that have them unlocks both AT and AI. if the packages onbly grant things to cons, as it does, then it doesnt matter what it adds frankly, as long as the price is right. could call it the "arming our troops for battle" bundle and it makes perfect sense design wise, assuming cons were viable without the upgrades for a time and that the upgrade is worth the cost. it would be no different than an actual tech building that gives these things, only its a sidegrade In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback17 Dec 2020, 22:49 PM i dont really get the mobilize changes frankly. soviet are supposed to tech to t4 every game, so it be included was a nice bonus that brought soviet closer to inline with other factions whom all at this point get SOMETHING with a full tech. t3 isnt meant to, nor can it, stand on its own even with the upgrade. the upgrade is indeed a good looking upgrade, which is nice but now the first t34 which already comes later than p4s will come later still soviet are still set up to crutch on the t70, even if that crutch is worse now because they dont get to benefit from a "congrats on building your first building, have everything you need for the rest of the game now" style mainline infantry breaking up the ability further but making them passive with tech might be the best route. give the vet bonus at t3 to help make up for the lost ground of not having a weapon upgrade, make the t4 bonus the reinforcment and keep the 7 man as it is now, or even a t3 bonus if the player techs both at nades and molitovs- maybe increase the price a bit in t3 and lower it back at t4 if 7 men start flooding the field but imo cons need something given to them at t3 instead of just taking away their tools and again while the mobilize upgrade looks great, it effectivly delays t4 as a result. not an issue for the su85 and katy, but the t34 - as the undeniable worst medium armoud cant really afford to be coming even later. unless we want to look at lowering the t34 price a bit to make skipping the upgrade to maybe get the t34 out at the same time as a p4 might be an option... frankly if both paths of a choice are not equally attractive then its not adding a choice, its adding a cost. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] OST Feedback17 Dec 2020, 22:25 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 21:49 PMGiaA Way too convoluted to put something this minor behind an upgrade. molitov has entered the chat but for real, the vet 3 damage reduction thats designed to make grens not evaporate instantly in the late game should be coupled with the mp reduction with tech not vet. it could still be unlocked at t4 but we need to stop pretnending that t4 is an alternative to t3 and make it a premium tier once again. treat it somewhat like hammer/anvil where you get it for late game buffs. if it provides more than just units then it can actually be worth getting if the player plans on t3 units. i have no idea how something as cut and dried as a battle phase teching with 7 levels of tech could be mishandled so poorly but here we are. each building should offer something to make them attractive despite the units within, battle phase escalations should improve the units in the tier before to promote fully teching and FEELING like a damn escalation of power. imagine the old ost tech costs, but teching battlephase 3 grants stugs and p4 skirts as a global passive and the ostwind better AA? well now you are already part way to t4 and even if youll never afford that panther, building the building itself will make your infantry tougher and stem some bleed... well now the game HAS dragged on and you lost your vetted p4, you have been floating a bit of fuel, you might as well bring out the panther because they are pumping out tanks like a soviet factory. already have enough AT? that brumbar will round out your army and force the enemy to concentrate assets to keep their infantry alive. making each step attractive beyond the unit makes teching up rewarded and more of a struggle to decide if its worth missing out on bonuses to race out faster units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback17 Dec 2020, 22:10 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 21:59 PMSpoof I honestly don't understand why Soviet AT grenades and molotovs were designed this way. Molotov should be tweaked to be the same as the USF molotov, and the AT grenade and molotov should be bundle together into a cheaper package (more expensive than an individual upgrade but cheaper than both upgrades). bundleing and increasing the price would actually be a nerf because the molitov, even at 10 fu and 80mp is not worth while. you compare to the lava nade that throws faster and further for only 10 mu more but almost a guarantee to get it off frontally even under mg fire tand its not hard to see why the molitov doesnt see use. 20mu to deny cover you practically have to stand in to throw and paying as much as spec ops infiltration nades AND paying for the privilege is a travesty. all bundeling will do is delay AT nades. molitov should be cheaper and scale better with vet if its going to have a cost attatched to it. and you shpuld get resources back if when you use it if its bundeld with the AT nade because otherwise its dead weight. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback17 Dec 2020, 21:57 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Dec 2020, 21:19 PMKatitof Incorrect. The upgrade that's currently at T3 requires molotov and AT nades unlocked first. well, gotta make people want the molitov upgrade somehow right? the performance of the molitov certainly doesnt create desire.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Osttruppen Discussion and Feedback15 Dec 2020, 00:13 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 23:58 PMSkysTheLimit Am I the only one who is baffled that we still have ANY cp 0 call-in infantry? If it's cp 0 toss it in the HQ. For everyones doc infantry: ostrup, ass grens, ass engineers, Pathfinders, etc. You can make those squads stronger if they can't be instantly spawned at 0:01 Being able to click squads on to the map in the opening of the game, especially cheap ones, makes no fucking sense to me I honestly think every unit should have a build timer, but don't need to change everything at this point Aaand thread. A big problem with the ostroppen t2 rush is that combined with your starting squad, you can have 2 squads capping from 1 second into the game and another building. Add em to t0 and have em build- they may even be in order for some nerf roll backs then to return them closer to their manpower effecient defenders role In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback15 Dec 2020, 00:07 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Dec 2020, 22:25 PMHelpingHans I don't know if this has already been covered or not. But with the changes to sand bag build time for other factions, shouldn't conscripts also take longer to build their sandbags as well? I don't think so given the role of the unit and lack of really anything else they provide. They don't (outside svts) really get dominating firepower so them being dug in enough to be a pain is in line with how they are to be used. Cons and sandbags are a bit like a Panther and it's front armour. They are pivotal to the durability of the unit. Much like how every shot from say a kv-1 would pen the Panther if it's front armour was facing another direction, cons without their cover (or vet) take a lot of damage with their large target size. Longe con sand bags means more than the better allied infantry being slowed. Even tommies who are designed around cover (even if that design has been dismantled) don't rely on out lasting to trade well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion13 Dec 2020, 20:13 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 17:46 PMzerocoh Don't know if this is the place for requests but I wanted to ask for beacons to also be put on other unit that isn't the pathfinder, since if you don't call it or it gets wiped mid game you have no way to make beacons and since only paratroopers can benefit from it, I think it's kinda dumb you needing to call another squad just for it. maybe give it to RETs or officers? thats very much the role of pathfinders though.... its a huge bonus and it shouldn't be available on 4 units you get for free.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion13 Dec 2020, 15:20 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Dec 2020, 15:13 PMVipper After the debate about heal I made some additional test: I tested Soviet base heal Live, Soviet base heal, UKF medics, USF ambulance and the time to heal 24 entities with 0 HP. Best healing is Ambulance/UKF medic around 70% better than Soviet base healing live. Soviet base healing in the patch is around 25% live. These are big change which will upset the current healing ratio speed of faction and I see little reason for one to proceeded with them unless on does extensive testing. There are certainly not "quality of life changes". I'd see the AOE of the soviet healing kept but the standard rate lowered so it's a neutral change. The AOE imo is necessary because of the issue where one of the nurses starts shagging Yuri and ignores the other lads. Bring back the 25% extra rate at t4 as by that stage of the game the increased heals would be more than welcome to offset the dramatically increased damage output of everything and the soviet are unable to otherwise offset this. Having to retreat to heal is still enough of a drawback In: COH2 Balance