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Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns25 Apr 2018, 04:45 AM Tommys have a target size of .8 not .89 so its actually .8*.77=.62 and it coming at vet 2 is the kicker- EFA (grens for example) get their -23% target size at vet 3 so already more durable tommys get MORE durable SOONER. Moving ot to vet 3 might help with snowballing and the accuracy coming at vet 2 migh help with brens counting for more earlier to boot. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How I feel about the upcoming Spring patch notes24 Apr 2018, 20:06 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 17:00 PMKasarov Couple things to point out: 222's armor is laughable right now and it certainly does not overlap with the Luchs as much as you might think. Even after the armor buff it remains vulnerable to some MGs (.50 and DsHK)and more vulnerable than the Luchs is to AT rifle fire. OKH lacks any light armor other than the 222 and 251 and both of them can be dealt with via prolonged small arms fire. I support the buff because it gives the OKH more build diversity. so a doctrinal MG and the latest arriving MG. bulletproof isnt the problem, its that AND the mp reduction. the only reason to think relic ACTUALLY has a hand in this patch is multiple changes to the same unit Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 17:00 PMKasarov The reason why ML-20 was replaced with B4 is that B4 has a direct fire shot for antitank duty, essentially making it the closest Soviet equivalent to the Pak43. Is it still a meme unit? Definitely. But does it fit the theme more? Also definitely. thats the thing, its a total joke, its AWFUL as an arty piece and its AT capability makes its arty capability look good. the pak43 works because it does its job, it will still hit behind shot blockers and it hits hard. the B4 can and will miss stationary target and you have to pay muni for the privilege, and if a unit is MOVING theres no point at all in trying, between the aim time and tiny arc and inability to actually rotate In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 19:47 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 12:26 PMKatitof Sniper started missing shots out of sudden? HMG42 stopped suppressing? Grenades stopped exploding? P4 shells stared to bounce? Mortars stopped attacking? Any other particular reason why you believe a 240/60 squad should trade equally with a squad that costs 280/120 and had to invest 50 additional fuel and couple of hundred mp just to be able to end up in that state? Why are your grens not vet3 to nullify tommies rec acc vet? On top of that, tommies get only half of the accuracy bonus that grens get. By the time tommies are vet3 you REALLY should have something more on field then LMG grens. That being said, I might have found out why you struggle so much - have you ever considered building anything else then grenadiers? The problem isnt the balance between a 240/60 unit and a 280/120 unit its that such a match up is even possible. This has been the problem since WFA. You have a unit that is superiour to start and is able to widen the gap even firther than the other evennhas a chance to get. Double upgrades are bad business. The whole POINT of the lmg42 was to give grens a fighting chance against superiour numbers, that doesnt work when they are out gunned and out numbered from the literal word go. And i dont buy that tommies should be balanced around the 5 man upgrade. They are VERY potent as a 4 man squad (smallest target size of any starting unit, long range focus, can build thwir own cover, accurate...) The game has just got so over the top its not even funny. They dont even pretend balance is on the radar and now were getting a community patch that tthe community is against becauae the community had no input at all and the "scope" as being used to deny touching on important problens isnt clear at all. As someone whos been around from the start i think this game is on the out. Relic is letting those who promised to stick around free reign to do as they wish with it and its going to die as. A result In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 10:37 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 09:54 AMblvckdream What the hell are you talking about? Sappers are locked behind tech. How do they help you with capping? Have you ever played Brits? Or just talking non-sense from your Axis point of view? Brit teching is pretty quick. You will have the fuel after their 3rd unit (whatever it may be) so sappers are plenty viable...or do you not build any units after you have 3 units being any combo of mg/infantry/LV? And in live tommys cap territory faster than other squads (because why wouldnt they right? Brits and all) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 09:53 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 09:43 AMLago Sapper flamers. Eh? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 08:58 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 08:50 AMblvckdream Yeah...But the game doesn´t work that way. Tommies are very strong but they have to be in order to carry the entire UKF faction right now. UKF units are always outnumbered by cheaper Axis units. UKF tanks are completly overnerfed, expect for Centaur. They are super vulnerable to LV because they have no snare. They have no decent indirect fire. Weak capping power in early game. Generally vs. Ostheer you face an uphill battle because you simply lack answers for their MG+ mortar combo Tommys sure as shit dont need to be all powerful. For 10mp more than pios they have sappers who are better in every way (notice a theme?) If theyre capping power is suffering its because this unit is getting neglected. Sappers btw have the same target size as tommys who have the same target size as panzergrens. They get dps buffs when in cover at only vet 1 (the same vets that unlocks trip flares and super inefficient medkits for other factions) as well as a MASSIVE -33% rec acc at vet3 and a reinforcement reduction. By design sappers are meant to fill in the gaps. They ALSO can get 5 men and arm AT or AI. There is no reason for racks and 5 man not to be a t0 hammer anvil choice because snare aside (and i mean, isnt this the patch that removes faction flavour in favour of drab, uninspired mirror match balance or is that just the snipers?) Theres nothing stopping brits from fighting armour. In live they have a never miss AT gun, that and a now homing piat should be more than enough to scare off a luchs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: 22224 Apr 2018, 08:50 AM People are against the 222 buff because its over buffing it. One buff not both. The armour lets it put more pressure on by not having to fear anything but soft AT. It increases reliability and field presence of both the 222 and the pios who would occasionally need to top it up after rifle fire. The mp reduction is unnecessary. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 08:32 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2018, 06:58 AMEsxile To stay superior to cheapest infantry getting the same level of buff with their own weapons upgrade. At the beginning dual weapons squad is a soft cap. Do you know WHY the cheapest infantry get that weapon? Its because they are and only ever will be 4 men. They have that weapon so that despite their small squad size they can continue to fight as without it dps falls by 25% per model (of whom are easier to hit AND more expensive to replace than tommies btw) tommies dont have that problem becauae they can diffuse the 4 man squad problem. I think weapon racks and 5 man squads should be mutually exclusive. If thats the case keep brens big and strong, but as long as they get throw on another model (with health, a gun and presenting another target to disperse incoming damage) theres no reason for the bren to be MUCH more than a fancy model.you cant have an inferiour squad inferiour 100% of the time in literally every single way and call it balance. Let okw start with obers and lets see how that balance goes. Same thing, just a smaller scale with tommies. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: (SBP) Bren Guns24 Apr 2018, 02:18 AM Im not even sure why 5 man long range, sub formula reinforcment cost, elite RA, AOE heal on field unit NEEDS to be able to double arm long range firepower to begin with... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: I strongly oppose the Soviet sniper change22 Apr 2018, 08:41 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2018, 08:20 AMKatitof That would not make spam unachievable. That would make getting a sniper at all a retarded idea. Recon team often escaped on 1 model and that 1 40hp model bleeds 90 mp each time. While the sniper was still present, it also suffered heavy attrition if you went for it. However the problem is existence of snipers in CoH all together. I never understood why they went with super expensive very high risk and reward unit for early game instead of specialized squad or light vehicle. PE ATHT anyone? Now THAT was a sniper done right, potent, very counterable, fun to play with and unique. obviusly its an idea in the rough. proof of concept if you will. its no worse an idea than the half baked lazy ass one they are planning on implementing 1 model dealing something like 40 damage and the other critting at 50% might be an interesting support sniper route, regualar RA, force multiplier kinda thing. make flares non vet and vet 1 be a sniper shot like pathfinders in th AA campaign In: COH2 Balance