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Thread: Are they not fixing heavies?8 Feb 2020, 07:54 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 21:16 PMAndy_RE Boy, this is a tough one to crack, mainly due to the way these units perform across modes. Some people on the balance team are advocating for final tier side tech as a more equitable solution than tying heavies to all tech buildings etc. Do people like this proposal? Also, what (if any) further nerfs do people think would be needed in conjunction with the above? In addition one has to look at the Commander them selves. Many Super heavy units come with abilities that ares imply too powerful. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is Zis-3's light artillery barrage too cheap?8 Feb 2020, 07:49 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 05:38 AMAntemurale The ZiS-3 barrage is already being nerfed: ZiS-3/SU-76 Barrage This change puts the barrage from ZiS-3 weapons inline with other direct-fire weapons and mortars that receive penalties when striking units in heavy cover. Heavy cover damage modifier from 1 to 0.5 That is more of "bug" (changing unintended performance) fix than a nerf. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Values for scatter and AOE profiles of tank main guns8 Feb 2020, 07:45 AM The chance is that you correct and patch notes are wrong. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Winter balance (1/2020) feedback OKW8 Feb 2020, 07:44 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 03:58 AMKubelecer USF's trademark is it's tech giving you a "free" squad, which in this case is the major. Why can you use the trademark for OKW defending points but not for USF getting a squad? BTW major's "a lot of utility" is not worth the fuel. Major cost no fuel to rebuild if it dies. Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 03:58 AMKubelecer Also, whats easier to keep alive, a 3man squad or a building? It really depends what you do with them Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2020, 03:58 AMKubelecer If you want to stall for very heavy doctrinal tanks, why should you also be allowed to take early game benefits (putting trucks far forward) without risking being punished for it? If your commander has lategame vehicles, why shouldn't you play like you are playing for the lategame? Since there tech cost to super heavy vehicles there is no "stall". In: Lobby
Thread: WINTER PATCH v1.17 Feb 2020, 23:09 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 22:54 PMHannibal I do not own that commander and did not see it on twitch, so to be honest I don't have much of an idea what to expect. Can the officer camo? Because honestly that's what makes them so strong. Also it's one man less (according to the patch preview notes) and I'm not sure which weapon the officer has. If it's not a sten gun then it's 60% (+DPS of the officer's weapon) strength of a commando squad. But as I said I'm by far not the best person to discuss about this special topic because I do not have experience with the commander. Hard to say for me if this is problematic. A real commando squad at that time point would cause issues though. The air landing officer and assault officer are basically the same at vet 0. The assault officer simply does not have the broken aura ability, but a less potent version of it. On the other hand AO scales better with an extra model at vet 2. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Are they not fixing heavies?7 Feb 2020, 22:57 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 21:16 PMAndy_RE Boy, this is a tough one to crack, mainly due to the way these units perform across modes. Some people on the balance team are advocating for final tier side tech as a more equitable solution than tying heavies to all tech buildings etc. Do people like this proposal? Also, what (if any) further nerfs do people think would be needed in conjunction with the above? A separate tech is the simplest way to adjust timing and tech cost for these units but that is not the only issue. These unit are simply way too cost efficient. Currently a Tiger can replace a both a Brumbar and Panther. And on the other hand some of the TD ignore the armor of these vehicles. Possible way of fixing some of the problem. 1) Lower the price and Power level of these unit. For instance Tiger could become a Super Comet and IS-2 a Super Churchill 2) Lower the performance in one area so that these unit require additional support like the Tiger could be better at AT and the IS-2 better at AI. 3)Lower base stat so that the shock value of these unit would go down and increase the vet bonuses so that they become rewarding once vetted. 4) Lower cheesy counter like Ram+of map Finally one has to keep in mind that the performance of these units is tied to their counters so balancing them should go hand in hand with balancing heavy TDs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: QOL AT guns- make "prioritize infantry " switch7 Feb 2020, 22:39 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 22:35 PMelchino7 IIRC it should be around 5% FF has much better chance to snipe model once vetted In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: WINTER PATCH v1.17 Feb 2020, 22:35 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 21:46 PMHannibal What do you mean by "Commando Strength units"? The airlanding officer? Sorry I'm a bit confused here, but that's the only thing I could find on a quick search. Yes am taking about assault officer which currently in live is available (as an airlanding officer) at CP 3 while one has to invest 540 MP to have access to it and in the patch it is available at at CP 0.5-1 for 320. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WINTER PATCH v1.17 Feb 2020, 20:31 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 19:10 PMHannibal ... To the point though: I think I also agreed on the general sentiment of mainline power creep. However thinking more about it there's probably not too much to it... The current patch just makes commando strength units available available 2 CP earlier. And this is just a typical example. More and more powerful units become available early in the game. That imo is step in the wrong direction. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter balance (1/2020) feedback - UKF7 Feb 2020, 18:18 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2020, 18:08 PMStark I don't think you test this unit correctly Looking at his counterparts situation looks like this: At vet0 they looses vs sturmpio squad and pgrens, barely vs assualt grens at vet3 depends on scenario they can win or loose vs pgrens and easily win vs sturmpio They definitely not bulling any CQC squad from OKW or Ostheer. Plus you can have only 1 of them on the field. It has a decent vet bonuses with cool abilities but that's it. And argument that comes earlier than pgrens maybe a fact but we talking about 1 min or so. That only inpacts ostheer but if so unit can have increase build time or could be put behind sidetech. I wouldn't be suprise if they more some vet bonuses to vet0 to make unit better at start. Plus, unit can't cammo so it cannot be compare to commando squad. Options to ambush axis infantry then depends more on a skill of a player. Creating powerful early units is bad from design point of view since the whole game can be based on how that unit perform in the first 3-4 minutes. In addition by lowering the power level one can make available earlier and add the utility of being good vs garrison one of the main problem UKF have. In addition the current implementation makes commandos less desirable and overlapping among 2 commanders. In the end of the day the can stat with a weaker version of the units allowing room for both commandos and if the unit proves to weak buff it after wards. Pls provides tests results vs Assault grenadier and ST, last time I checked it did not loose. In: Lobby