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Thread: Winter balance mod 2020 V1.316 Mar 2020, 13:26 PM Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 13:09 PMOsinyagov Yes, at least it should. As well as AT Section. These assets were sent to the balance team. They were created by SneakEye and me. Well done In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Another Take On The Heavy Tank Meta16 Mar 2020, 11:29 AM Jump back to quoted post16 Mar 2020, 10:33 AMLago ... This isn't about reducing the strength of the IS-2 in a vacuum. It's about making the Panther function against SOV as it does against USF and UKF, and about stopping the Tiger being OST and OKW's heavy best tank destroyer. You are trying to tackle too many issue at once. The is one issue which design issue and not balance issue and that is Ostheer Tiger/T4 effectiveness. The situation here become worse the Ostheer Panther had its power level increased to 185 fuel. That made generally T4 less viable since one could only a specialized tank (either AI or AT) and Tiger a far superior option since it can cover both roles. There is number of solution to this like moving an all around vehicle in T4, either Tiger or giving HE round to Panther or reducing the power level of Panther so that one can afford more than one tank. There is another issue which is the the gap between the effectiveness of TDs and other AT weapon. Currently one can deal with super heavies either by building a super heavy also or by using heavy TDs. Heavy TD is large game are too effective vs super heavies while super heavy hold to much shock value is small. Imo the solution here is to reduce the power level of TD and fire power of Super heavies. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Panther Accuracy15 Mar 2020, 17:22 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 16:09 PMLago They're already having their firepower cut, and they do not need more durability. If they're too weak at 960 HP, slash the price. Don't make them tougher. Them being better than the Panther at AT is the cause of so many of the problems with them. When I said they should be tougher I did not mean that they should have their armor/hp increased. More like reducing the ridicules high penetration of the vetted M36/Su-85: 338/312/286 AP 390/364/325 312/299/286 A Tiger having 4.7% to bounce a shot from 140 fuel TD at range 60 make little sense when costing 230 fuel... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Panther Accuracy15 Mar 2020, 13:23 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 12:47 PMLago I'm not saying don't. I'm saying it's better to build a medium tank if its AT firepower is sufficient to counter the enemy composition. Going massed TDs when you don't need TDs is trading better manpower bleed for overkill. The problem with that is you might be better in mid game but worse in the late game when you medium has trouble penetrating even it flanks. Take for instance PzIV it can provide you a slight advantage in mid game but it wont offer much when premium mediums, heavy, super heavy or 60 range TDs appear. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 12:47 PMLago Tank destroyer spam happens when that much AT firepower is necessary. Your suggestion of making heavies even tougher is just going to make that worse. No really Super heavies proved problematic when their leathality increased. They where devastating in 1vs1 is one did not have "heavy TDs counter" while the performance is not great increased in 4v4s where numerous TDs could still take them out before they could put the firepower to use. Generally their annoy to play with and against. They would either completely "shock" the enemy or be decimated in seconds. That is why I suggest testing less firepower more durability. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Panther Accuracy15 Mar 2020, 12:06 PM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 11:55 AMLago I think you're heavily undervaluing manpower bleed. In isolation, the Sherman is a better pick against the Ostwind than the Jackson. The Sherman will deal with the Ostwind and then contribute its hefty anti-infantry firepower to the battle. The Jackson will deal with the Ostwind, then do nothing until another tank shows up. This applies more broadly: you want enough AT to deal with the enemy tanks, then stack the rest of your army with as much manpower bleed as you can. Investing in a load of AT you don't need is suboptimal play. Yet USF suffer less from it since they can simply dismount. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 11:55 AMLago Tank destroyers are a reaction to the enemy composition. We see it so much because the dominance of the heavy tank meta since the Mobidef nerfs made it necessary: if you need two Tank Destroyers to kill a heavy, you're going to build two tank destroyers. And there goes 38% of your popcap. And tank are almost mandatory for Ostheer since they will lose if they try to play without vehicles. In addition not using you fuel is also a waste of resources. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 11:55 AMLago Cutting the Tiger down to 960 makes one tank destroyer that much more able to deal with it, freeing up that popcap and those resources for other vehicles. It might, ironically enough, reduce the number of 60 range TDs fieled. Yet the original changes in CP was made because super heavy tanks where simply not being able to stand to massed TD some making even less durable will removed from large modes. The performance of allied TDs at max range is an issue. The performance of super heavies when TDs are not present is another. This why I have suggested that Super heavies should be more about durability and less about lethality and that the should get great vet bonuses. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter balance mod 2020 V1.315 Mar 2020, 09:15 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 08:37 AMSuperHansFan Stats that are misleading in terms of a balance discussion, it's like posting shock troop and pathfinder stats together. Sure both are anti infantry units but high accuracy on pathfinders isn't relevant to the accuracy of shock troops. Man pls stop making stupid claims. Stat are not misleading THEY ARE FACTS. In addition stop insinuating that I am trying to mislead people by comparing the "wrong type" of unit. I did not compare the Panther with FF, Hannibal did I simply provided the stat he was missing. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 08:37 AMSuperHansFan Both tanks can't be compared as simply, different units different roles so judging only on accuracy is pointless. The role is the same, they are both "counter to super heavy tank". Their difference how they achieve that role. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 08:37 AMSuperHansFan And yes FF is UP compared to other TDs, it's popcap is inflated. Just look at the Jagdpanzer pop for example. For the 100 time FF pop is not inflated and you are actually the one comparing units with a different role. FF is meant to counter super heavies and JP is meant to counter mediums. And actually JP's pop is inflated. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 08:37 AMSuperHansFan Skilled players can make it work with the skillshot that is tulips, but unless you're Hans or Jove nobody is going to be pulling off full tulip hits on medium tanks so it is in a weaker state than all other TDs due to its sniper role. FF has sight 45, damage 200, Tulips, armor 160 a turret, access to "Warspeed", a coaxial mg, one of longest mid range at 45 and it simply fine. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter balance mod 2020 V1.315 Mar 2020, 08:10 AM Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan So you want panther buffed to FF levels? Did I say that? Did even hint that? I have simply responded to a question by providing the relevant stats. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan May I remind you FF has the longest reload in the game at 8 seconds. Obviously it needs high accuracy otherwise the TD that has the slowest DPS in the game would be even worse. Taking about FF reload with taking about Tulips and higher damage per shot simply gives half the picture. You are also assuming that FF is bad. Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2020, 03:45 AMSuperHansFan The whole design of the unit is that of a 60range sniper, you can't compare it to the panther at all. I did not compared it with Panther. I have simply pointed out that the change in medium target size will not have desired effect when it comes to FF. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Panther Accuracy14 Mar 2020, 08:08 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2020, 07:53 AMmrgame2 Panther has never been this cheap. Support it with pak, pio, gren or ostwind. It has never been in such grand spot ever. Please no buff this unit PANTHER CHANGES Both Panthers are being standardized in reload and accuracy to improve performance; the health bonus at veterancy 2 has been shifted to the unit’s stock performance to improve its survivability against tank destroyers. Now possibly in its best spot yet. • Wehr Panther fuel cost from 175 to 185 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pak Howitzer fix idea14 Mar 2020, 08:05 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2020, 05:17 AMSerrith I dont think timing is why the pack Howie is overperforming. Or the Scott for that matter. I mean yeah if you pushed the Scott to be a 15cp unit, that would stop it from being purchased. A unit as an investment need to pay for its cost. The later it comes the less time its has. If you make LMG Ober come before minute one they will automatically be OP without any further change. If you move the Pack at major people will invest in other things and double pack will not be worth it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pak Howitzer fix idea13 Mar 2020, 20:24 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2020, 19:36 PMDoomlord52 You didn't list any stat changes, so double PH would be exactly the same; just a bit later. However, timing doesn't matter too much, Timing is essential. That was proven by many examples some of them most recent ones being when JLI was moved from CP 2 to CP 1 and Fall from 3 to 2. In: COH2 Balance