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Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 13:42 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 11:48 AMAerohank No, here you go again. I didn't call the Elephant godlike. I asked if Doomlord considered the Elephants AT power as godlike since he considers the ISUs AT power to be excellent. Which was of course a rhetorical question meant to redicule his position. You know this of course. You did claim that "AT performance of the ISU-152 poor vs anything above a PzIV" (edited since I could find the original post and mistakenly though it was edited. My apologies to any one offended) I provided that stat that proved that claim false. The AT performance of the ISU-152 is good specially since it will do 120 damage on any target it hits. PLS move on Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 11:48 AMAerohank You on the other hand actually called the performance of 4 TDs almost the same, then took a cherry-picked stat which only shows maybe 20% of the picture, and called it 'proof' that "the differences in TDs is not that great". You are stretching stats to prove points that the don't prove. PLS be more carefully about your claims and accusations. I did not stretched stats, I provided the TTK of 4 units to demonstrate that they close. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Intel bulletins24 Mar 2020, 13:27 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 13:23 PMJulianSnow Don't think we have much influence in the loading screen. Well maybe they could just be have blank icon. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 13:25 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 13:23 PMKatitof Last patch mention of ISU AP rounds specifically mentions removing deflection damage, 5 years ago. There is no further note mentioning anything about AP rounds or their pen. Care to post a patch note saying it was re-introduced? Why don't you simply test in cheat mode In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 13:22 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 13:15 PMachpawel Aren't there some stuns involved too? Stun from auto shots have removed for all units as far as I can remember. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 13:09 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 11:14 AMKatitof ISU HE rounds have 40 deflection damage. ISU AP rounds have 0 deflection damage. KV-2 has 50% deflection dmg. The information is false: ISU HE rounds have 40 deflection damage. ISU AP rounds have 120 deflection damage. (50%) ISU skill shot 80 deflection damage.(30%) KV-2 direct 120 deflection damage (50%). KV-2 indirect 120 deflection damage (50%) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Intel bulletins24 Mar 2020, 12:53 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 12:40 PMOsinyagov Among units of the same class - yes Number of bulletins should be discussed closely. My idea: 2-3 bulletins for each unit with basic bonuses, which fits to this unit. 1-2 bulletins with unique bonus, like Ostwind has (added supression), which highlight the role of the unit. It can be waste of time, so be ready for that. I do agree that all unit should have 3 bulletins available to them I would also like it if bulletin where not visible to enemy player. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Winter balance mod 2020 V1.324 Mar 2020, 11:07 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 10:52 AMKatitof Osttruppen actually have some of the highest accuracy in game - they just deal low damage, but they most certainly reliably deal damage. Their scaling is as any other mainline infantry. They went through so many buffs and even got LMG upgrade for late game, that now they are very cost effective squad as long as you position yourself correctly. ostruppen did not got many buffs, they got a major nerf to slot weapons. Osttruppen (affects all Osttruppen variants) Osttruppen have been adjusted to limit their ability to swarm the field in the early game and be less potent with fallen weapons. In return they can be upgraded to allow them to scale into the late game. Osttruppen call-in ability now starts on cooldown. NERF Reinforce time from 2 to 3.5 NERF Ability recharge from 10 to 25 NERF Cover bonus for slot items from 300% to -25%. MAJOR NERF Panzerfaust now requires either Infanterie Kompanie or Leichete Mechanized Kompanie; also affects Grenadiers small Buff Can now be upgraded with an MG 42 for 45 munitions after Battlephase 3 is researched Buff Actually Ostruppen/ostruppen reserves used to be very popular not they are not picked that much. The accuracy of Ostruppen is high only in cover. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 09:22 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 08:41 AMAerohank And here we go again... Actually here you go again Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 08:41 AMAerohank TDs are compared with literally 1 stat, with absolutely no regard to what targets they will most likely encounter in matches, or their mobility or anything else. and the conclusion is drawn that there really isn't that much difference between the TDs at all. I have simply provided the stat that prove that when it comes to their guns vs mediums the ISU-152 is close to Panther and Elefant close to SU-85. Saying that when it comes to AT Elephant is "godlike" and ISU-152 "poor" is not support by those stats. And I can provide you that stats for any unit you want to compare. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 08:32 AM The differences in TDs are actually not that great: TTK vs a mediums is: ISU-152 21.79 Panther 19.95 Elefant 17.14 SU-85 16.95 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: ISU-152 HE shell range should be reduced?24 Mar 2020, 01:27 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 00:35 AMGrumpy I think he just took the damage and divided it by the time between shots, ignoring accuracy, penetration, etc. Calculating it that way, I think his numbers are correct. No they are not. One can only use "HP/number of shots" ratio since in this case it leads to overkill. For instance the Elefant does 300 damage and the ISU-152 does 240 but they both need 3 shots to kill medium tank so the "equivalent" damage for both is 213.3. The Elephant is around 17% better (given all shot do damage) vs medium than ISU-152 while his results present it as 37.5%. Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2020, 01:26 AMelchino7 Also: pls people stop using DPS as tank vs tank measure DPS can be used if the instead of the damage of the gun one uses the HP/number of shots ratio. This method can take into account accuracy (not collision which can be added as percentage of shot missed) and penetration. In: COH2 Balance