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Thread: SU-85 and SU-768 Aug 2020, 08:07 AM There was little reason to use the unit with KV-1. KV-1 is able to win vs a PzIV. On the other hand KV-8/Su-76 is a good combo. Main battle tanks like the KV-1 should require tech, specialized vehicles like the KV-8 could return in being call-in or at least not requiring T4 with a few tweaks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 7 Aug 2020, 18:38 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 18:25 PMthedarkarmadillo .... But is it worth less than a kuble with the munitions upgrade? Certainly not. ... The 1:3:5 conversation is correct and still applies. When is calculating the cost of the WC51 one has to keep in mind that is also comes with a crew that can be used to repair vehicles. The cost of the crew alone is something like 170 mp so direct comparison with light vehicles from other faction can be misleading. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-85 and SU-767 Aug 2020, 09:07 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 08:31 AMKatitof And how would that work without botching its performance overall? It already got RoF and scatter nerfs back in the day. You're suggesting something that is not possible to implement without massive impact on overall performance of the unit. I can think of at least 3 different ways to achieve that. It is actually self-evident that it can be done since the majority of tanks are inferior at wipes on retreats. I will not go into this since this thread is about SU-85 and SU-76. Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 08:31 AMKatitof Like.... putting down a teller mine? Or having shreck PG squad on field? Or maybe ATG? None of solution you mentioned can chase a T-70, they all require the T-70 to move into them. Actually even member of the MOD team have recognized that Ostwind should perform better vs T-70. I will not go into this since this thread is about SU-85 and SU-76. Jump back to quoted post7 Aug 2020, 08:31 AMKatitof Ahh yes, the famous "it will be buffed, if we nerf everything else" line. Not happening. That is simply your twisted perception of things, it also a lye. I have never said anything even remotely similar to that. So I would appreciated it if you at least had the decency to remove the quotation marks you used to create the illusion that you have actually quoted me. Bottom line here is that SU-76 is far inferior vs PzIV to SU-85 and thus one is better of making SU-85 even if the enemy is making PzIVs. Overlap in this role is an issue and buffing the SU-76 will not solve the problems. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-85 and SU-767 Aug 2020, 08:27 AM T-70's ability to wipe retreating infantry needs to be toned down and it will not break the faction at all. In addition Ostheer could get better tools against it like improving the the capability of Ostwind to fight the T-70. SU-76 is fine. One could make the Su-76 more popular with a number of changes like: make the KV-8/Su-76 easier to get create more room for PzIV by lowering the effectiveness of TDs like the SU-85 against them In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 6 Aug 2020, 11:28 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2020, 09:08 AMSerrith So first I do agree that "micro" light vehicles have some... interesting characteristics, the only exception being perhaps the UC since its received the most recent reworks. Second, I assume Vipper is referring to "light" light vehicles-stuff smaller then the 222 like the soviet M3, kubel, wc51 and UC. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with adding an extra label to distinguish what particular class of vehicles we are talking about, though it can be confusing if one begins using this new specification without clarifying what it means beforehand. Your assumption is correct. LV can range from kubel to Stuart and I was talking for the units you mention (possibly +m20 without skirts,221). If one is genuinely confused one can simply ask for clarifications. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of OKW in the meta 6 Aug 2020, 08:54 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 22:53 PMProtos Angelus Sure, mortar can work but going US mortar is just straight up garbage. ... If you think that USF mortar is "straight up garbage" I suggest you read this https://www.coh2.org/topic/106172/indirect-fire-performance-a-comparison/page/1#post_id829910 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 6 Aug 2020, 08:48 AM Generally speaking all micro light vehicles should be looked at. There HP/armor values, DPS, weapon DPS curves and moving DPS are all over the place. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 5 Aug 2020, 18:08 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 14:27 PMSumi Are you trolling again? There is no need for comment like this. I would appreciate it if did not continued Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 14:27 PMSumi Comparing 76mm's AI with Jackson when Jackson has no AI and AT with M4 when M4's AT finds it tough to go toe-to-toe against pz4? While comparing dolphins with humans would you consider swimming or running? Let me try to explain this to you once more. M4 HE has the best AI round than any medium tank. 76mm Sherman having inferior AI gun than M4 HE does not mean much. Jackson is a TD and has better AT than all medium tank. 76mm Sherman have inferior AT gun than Jackson does not mean much. Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 14:27 PMSumi I don't remember the 5 vehicles do list them out will help me. WC51,m3,MHT,76mm, upgraded Sherman Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 14:27 PMSumi The last 3 things are found in the WC 51 which a lot but it barely is able to survive past the 5 min mark or when the early axis light vehicles hit the field. Since it does not need any veterancy to use mark target or use 155mm barrage it does not matter if it can not survive pass the 5 min. One can simply build a new one and use the ability. One can even use the crew to repair vehicles. Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 14:27 PMSumi And you are correct WC51 nerf will not make the commander totally useless since it is already totally useless with the WC51 in it and also if this commander provides a lot of doc vehicles or abilities why does it fails to even make the top3 for USF commanders? You won't even find this commander in the loadout of <250 rank matches. Ok if in your opinion the commander is already useless nerfing the WC51 should not be an issue since it would make little difference. As for the mechanized commander it was actually the second most used commander in 2019 world Championship and it has not been nerfed since then. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 5 Aug 2020, 09:05 AM Jump back to quoted post5 Aug 2020, 05:25 AMSumi I guess the commander does not have a good late game and thats why it tries to balance it out by a very good 0cp unit. 76mm fails to do anything, I mean who would make a 76mm to counter T4 units of axis, it is bad in AI as compared to M4 and bad in AT as compared to Jackson. Has the same armor and hp as m4 so 4 shots kill it and not much bounces frontally when it goes against p4. I don't know why is it even present for USF, very unused commander if not for early meme games. If you do nerf WC 51 then the commander would be totally useless. The 76mm also has great AT compared to M4 and great AI compared to Jackson. It does not "fails to do anything". WC51 was buffed through the roof in December patch to "justify" taking up a commander slot and then it was bundled with m3. The commander gives access to 5 doctrinal vehicles, 1 doctrinal infantry, combined arms, mark target, 155mm barrage which is allot more than most commanders provide. Claiming tha a nef to WC51 will make the commander "totally useless" is simply false. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 4 Aug 2020, 13:15 PM it is underperforming plain and simple. (things OP missed: range advantage passenger can compared to UC where passenger can not shoot Comes in the same commander slot as M3 ) In: COH2 Balance