Profile of Vipper

So, what do you call a stug, or a M10 ? Or Su 76? They all have 50 range, too ? What's with that "it have to have TD range" ?

A simply factual correction, Su-76 has range 60.

Everything is effective when spammed and you don't apply correct counter fast enough(CE flamer spam vs OKW 1v1 anyone?).
But in this case, you're paying 70 fuel for more mobile, less effective ZiS.
Puma costs just as much, arrives earlier, self spots without vet or constant muni expenditure, has self defense mechanic, has turret, can actually chase low health tanks and has a chance to escape them.

So yeah, there is same role package(light vehicle TD to engage lvs and meds) with much more utility then barrage.

SU-76 still has a superior gun with more range, double the far penetration and more than one and half the accuracy and the ability to barrage.

And these units are meant to be used differently.

But since according to you "Everything is effective when spammed" and Puma is so great feel free to provide a replay where spammed Puma and won.

It has no turret, therefore it is bad.
This is what everyone says about StuG3 and JP4, so it must be unquestionable true regardless of other traits.

Pls stop saying what other say and try to say something for yourself.

And how do you imagine that should be achieved?
You can't lower nerf, because it won't be effective vs heavies.

Yes you can't "lower nerf"

Same with accuracy.

Yes you can lower accuracy because super heavies and medium have different target sizes

If you nerf RoF, heavies will be able to push through and it'll appear in pairs, invalidating P4s just as much.

Yes you can lower ROF and increase damage and it would remain as effective vs Super heavies but less effective vs mediums.

Cost is already very high compared to meds.
So is pop cap.

No pop (and cost) is lower than M36/FF/Panther and can be increase to match them.

The XP value is also lower, can also be increased to match them.

The focus sight can become a timed ability (or rmeoved) and/or tracking can also be removed

There is plenty of units that had minor stat problem fixed and they suddenly became effective meta units.
Point case:
T34 coax and pintle MGs, cons dmg and accuracy tweak, PG timing.

Your idea of "minor" is funny, T-34 mg where buffed through the roof and so where PG timing

The same can be said about KT if you gave it to USF or soviets.
Or pwerfer to brits.
Or Panther to any allied faction.

great do you actually have point or just typing?

People who tend to play just 1 side tend to be completely blind to strengths of units, because they never go up against them and people who constantly face them see them exclusively too strong as they never see what they can't do. And I'm quoting example of both cases.

People who do not play the game are "completely blind" to things about the units of the game.

SU-76 does not need much, but to say its cost efficient unit in current state is insanity.

The only insanity is your obsession to question other's people sanity.

but loses any sort of lategame scaling and is extremely squishy... it also isnt put on high regard by many players and is rarely if ever used

In late it uses its utility which is barrage.

should it be good against superheavies and panzer 4? yeah sure... its a turretless slow tank destroyer that is more expensive than a panzer 4 yet slower and is specialized against armor...

Mobility:
PzIV Speed: 6.3 Accel: 2.1/ vet 3 Speed: 6.3 Accel: 2.3
SU-85: Speed: 5.7 Accel: 2.1 vet Speed: 6.8 Accel: 2.1 in sort SU-85 is not slow

Su-85 is slower at vet but faster at vet 3 but why on earth are you comparing a TD with tank?

the SU-85 actually fares worse against an ost player fielding panzer 4`s than it does against an ost player fielding panthers... the SU-85 is too slow to catch the panzer 4 and the panzer 4 can still punish infantry on the flanks and abuse the fact that the soviet infantry isnt exactly top dog...

The panther is faster than PvIV...

the only OP heavy tank destroyer around these parts is the main battle jackson which is turreted fast while having HVAP on top of its slightly lower DPS but still really good gun...

The SU-85 does not need HVAP because it penetration is 312/299/286 at vet 2 which is higher than HVAP at vet 2.

yeah the squishyness and the relatively low DPS of the SU-76 are "minor stats" in your opinion... but that is not an opinion shared by alot of players who think the SU-76 needs more scaling...

Its DPS is actually fine for cost.

What exactly would you suggest?

Cut the bullshit with semantics, I'm not vipper and I'm not going to get dragged into that.

Panther funcionality in game is TD.
It does not do it by outranging tanks, but outlasting them.

Anything above that is symptom of mental disorder.

Pls stop trying to drag me into your silly arguments.

And for your information, you are the one arguing semantics continuously simply because you nothing useful to offer, so its insult and semantics non stop.

Some interesting changes.

IL-2 Rocket Strafe

In order for the reduce penetration to have an actually impact increase rear armor of Panther to 110 from 90 and of Panzer J (OKW/doctrinal Ostheer) to 115-120 similar to vet 2 Osther PzIV.

Lend Lease
The commander does not need a powerful off map, it currently give players a strong early start so it should not also provide power late game off map.

There should be limit to what commanders offer so that more commander should become attractive.