I think a big lumbering recon plane does not spark 'spec ops' to me, but I know nothing
Yeah but a flare providing reconnaissance during broad daylight makes plenty of sense... Forget the time of day it's a fucking flare. How does it provide recon ever???
#Bring back Raketen mobile camo for Spec Ops tank terror?
You literally just mocked people who thought the Rak was OP, and this is your suggestion? Lol okay
Let's not bring back one of the most cancerous things that's ever been in the game please. Thanks
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Exactly, this majority provided reasons, not proofs, numbers or whatever reflexion over the effects changing this ability would have, and so it seems legitimate to question it.
They provided much more than you have. You haven't provided anything at all
One is meant for reco and the other for destruction, it feels logic.
What are you trying to say? It makes no sense to compare those abilities and it only works against your point, as I just showed you
Can you answer the question? Why does it need to be uncounterable? Why can't we just replace it with a recon plane? |
And I think I don't have to give any example to convince you that saying the majority always say the truth is totaly bullshit.
No one said the majority always says the truth. But it's not just a majority it's a majority who have provided their reasoning right here for you to see
And a majority is far better than one person saying, "I'm right, you're wrong, trust me". You haven't provided any legit response to why their recon should be uncounterable. Just make it a recon plane like everyone else. Same goes for brit early warning, it should have counterplay
It was just an example of a Call-in that can't die, nothing more, That's all i'm saying.
Okay but the critical difference is you still need to spot for the Il2. With a unit. Or with a recon plane..... That can be shot down. Do you see the difference?
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And if we were listening to people claiming whatever is OP for years, the MG-42 would fire apple, Jagtiger would be a bigger kubel and Riflemen would have to fight with sword, so yes, "claiming for years" that something is OP isn't necessary the truth.
I didn't say that made it the truth. You said people were "suddenly complaining about it". That's factually incorrect, people have been complaining about it for a while. That's all I'm saying
Flares are uncounterable like every non-planes capabilities, and even with planes some might not fall (IL-2 bomb drop for the most recent similar post), so that's not really what makes something "OP".
No they are not the same. The IL2 requires vision to call it in, the flares do not because they are providing the vision. They are not the same at all. Furthermore the IL2 bomb has 3 red flares on the ground warning you your about to get hit
So you can keep repeating to yourself a lie thousands of times, it won't turn into a truth.
Seriously dude? Read the thread you're in the small minority of people who think it's fair and balanced. You have to be absursly biased to think this ability is fine
Your argument is "your opinion is a lie, mine is correct". Lol okay buddy |
Nothing proved that it is OP, and if so, maybe it's for the greater good like the T-70.
Make a thread about the t70. Stop going offtopic
The flares are uncounterable. That's a problem. That's it. There's absolutely no reason for them to be uncounterable
No one is "suddenly claiming" anything, people have been saying this is broken for YEARS. Just because you didn't see the comments doesn't mean they werent there.... |
Yeah the spec ops flares are cheesier imo but it doesn't really matter, both should be changed
If the Brit one still needs to involve territory for themes sake, make it a significant temporary buff to units vision in frontline territory |
Good, loiter planes take 0 effort to use and shouldn't take that much effort to counter. Air and AA is IMO pretty poorly implemented in this game but that's what we have to work with.
Yup pretty much this. Idk why anyone should have to expend much effort to counter air abilities in their current implementation
They don't count towards your pop, they do all the work for you, and in long team matches the cost can stop being prohibitive. Keeping my AA unit in range should be plenty to knock out those absurd abilities
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Than allies anti air needs to be nerfes hard since they Nullified planes from axis.
Care to actually specify what you're talking about? Which AA is OP, the quad? That's how good a mostly dedicated AA unit should be
If you think axis AA isn't good enough, make a thread. You most be talking about Ost cause OKW gets good AA gun every time they get their final tech, and the flak HT is plenty good enough too
But Ost has pintles on every tank, the 222 isn't bad at AA, and the Ostwind is good if you have one. I really don't know what you're talking about |
getting flared is just annoying, more then it is overpowered. This includes the British one too, they both need to be reworked/replaced.
+1 to this. Both of them are dumb abilities
Turn them into recon loiters and call it a day |
The Command P4 is not even bad as it is. Sure the veterancy should be adjusted to be more useful for it but that's about it.
Don't think OP said it's bad once. He said it relies on a gimmick, which is true. It's not bad at all, if anything it can be too strong in team games
Sharing a received damage modifier with your teammates is very cheesy, especially one that encourages you to blob. Give it other utility and restrict bonuses to yourself. Or change the bonuses and allow sharing
I don't play that much 1v1 but I can't remember ever seeing it there. I pretty much only see it in team games, I don't think it's worth getting in 1v1 but could be wrong
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