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Thread: What is the state of Panzer 4 on the Winter Balance Patch13 Feb 2017, 17:16 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Feb 2017, 12:32 PMAPlebsyTeddyBear18 But! Aren't the OKW panzer IV and Panther 'better' since they get accuracy bonuses with veterancy? The OKW Panther has slightly better reload than the Ostheer Panther on the maingun. The accuracy on the move is better for OKW and the accuracy of the MGs is also better on the OKW Panther (talking about vet0). Ostheer was once designed to have a good lategame and the Ostheer Panther comes out way later than the OKW one. That´s why some people suggest for a long time that the Ostheer Panther should be replaced by the OKW variant. There is simply no logical reason to give Ostheer a crippled version of the Panther except "Ostheer mustn´t have nice things". And before someone mentions it: The increased fuel cost for OKW was introduced to compensate the ressource float after the economy changes. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: What is the state of Panzer 4 on the Winter Balance Patch10 Feb 2017, 23:14 PM If they don´t fix the a) Cromwell / Panzer IV and b) Comet / Panther matchup by either nerfing the British vehicles or buffing the German vehicles, I´d call that a failed patch. Even more so since I read here somewhere a StuG nerf (Ausf. G) was considered. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: 39min to bring down one bofors..8 Feb 2017, 13:14 PM The real problem is the invincibility feature emplacements come with in the form of the "brace" ability. This snowballs later when the Axis player tries to force a brace on one emplacement but the other emplacements (mortar pits + crewed Bofors) can destroy the Axis artillery faster than the Axis artillery can destroy the targeted emplacement. All this while the Axis player has to make sure to force the emplacements into brace and then constantly fire once brace wears off. We can see this difference in micromanagement required in the featured game. Hero could have pushed into Joves base more than one time - all for having built four emplacements and going into spectator mode. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?6 Feb 2017, 23:15 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2017, 11:16 AMBlalord As far as i remember, you have at least to tech to go Comet And double ISU 152 is not fun at all go play against You are probably still traumatised by the 100 range Elefant and ISU-152, which are no longer around. The other problem could be avoided if we tied Tigers, IS-2s etc. to teching. Only able to "call in" when you have built T4. Similar to the T-34/85. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?5 Feb 2017, 17:16 PM I think with the power creep the Western Armies brought to the game and the second power creep that the Brits brought (for the Allies exclusively), heavy vehicles need an overhaul completely. Mind you that mostly the old armies (Ostheer and Soviets) have access to those heavy call in vechicles (ISU-152, KV-2, IS-2, Tiger I, Elefant). At this point I think the limit of only having one on the field at a time could be reverted. This was needed when SU-85s, Su-76s, M36s and StuGs weren´t buffed and there were no Fireflies or Comets around. Currently heavy tanks are little more than a medium. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger Ace's resource penalties1 Feb 2017, 13:40 PM We had this discussion before. I stay with my opinion: The Tiger Ace is bad design. It rewards a player that couldn´t hold his fuel point (getting a tank for no fuel) and it punishes a player that is able to keep his Tiger alife (crippling ressource penalty). This goes against two major aspects of CoH basics. In: Lobby
Thread: osttruppen29 Jan 2017, 18:22 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2017, 16:27 PMCrecer13 After playing with osttruppen I came to the conclusion - they need a little late game buff. Maybe buy three SVT-40 or a DP-27 (because it's RLA soldiers and fought with Soviet weapons) after T3 or T4 construction? Not too sure about that. Osttruppen are hard to define as they are. I feel they are OP the first 5 minutes and then become practically useless (good for grabbing stuff). A straight up lategame buff to Osttruppen would make the OP as a whole and lead to more spam. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?29 Jan 2017, 14:08 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2017, 13:22 PMA table Panther is the most costefficient tank in the game, offering versatility with a main gun that has yet to bounce off the side of most, if not all heavy tanks. That´s the Comet. Versatility is not the Panthers strenght. Especially not the Ostheer Panthers. I suggest you look up the stats. The Ostheer Panther doesn´t have as efficient MGs. In fact it kills a conscript every 15 or so seconds. This is appaling. The rate of fire of the main gun is also worse than that of a Panzer IV which penetrates most tanks anyway while being better versus infantry. If microed well one Cromwell can kill a Panther, two will for sure - for the same fuel cost. That is how "well" the Panther performs in the AT department. But I forgot, it´s not supposed to counter medium tanks for cost. That´s not its role. It´s role is to appear once every full moon and kill a heavy tank only to return to insignificance after that. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?29 Jan 2017, 13:05 PM Ostheer Panther. It´s a downgrade from tier 3 vehicles in terms of dps against vehicles. All while being shit versus infantry. I would like to remind you that Ostheer was supposed to have an additional tier to compensate for their 4 men squads. Meanwhile only Brits have that additional tier. Ostheer has a downgrade from tier 3 in terms of AT. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WBP 1.728 Jan 2017, 10:55 AM Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2017, 10:44 AMMr.Smith Technically, from our part, the patch is nearly done. To be completely done we need specific feedback about specific vehicles. i.e., how people used the vehicles and why said vehicle was OP/UP in that role. Attaching a replay in that comment will also help us identify whether there was something else going on. The patch won´t be satisfying with at least an Ostheer Panther buff since it comes later than the OKW one and is worse (MGs, reload). That rate of fire is appaling. For a faction that was supposed to have an additional tier the Panther is simply unsatisfying. Worse the Brits who were supposed to be on par with Ostheer lategame simply dominate with their Cromwells and Comets. The Panther has no utility whatsoever. In: Lobby